Goth Clothes Prompted Killing

They need to be named and shamed! I hate it also when I read stuff like this and it says the accused denies murder. They should be charged with murder and not something like manslaughter, being drunk isn't an excuse.

Aye, he shouldn't have been drunk to begin with at the age of 15. But something like this, people should be named regardless of age or what mental state they were under at the time.

This will no doubt turn into a ban alcohol parade by PC brigade.
 
its just clothes
it doenst matter what people wear

its **** when stuff like this happens


im a jeans and tshirt kind of guy

NO SWEARING - Dangerous
 
How very sad, this is on the same level as a racist attack. And should be considered when their punishments are considered.
 
In the least trollish way possible, if it was drunks that killed a "chav" then everyone would be happy, i'm sure...

But that really is sad :(
 
That is a horrible story. These pack animals need serious attention from somebody but who??? The police seem to be totally ineffective at preventing crime and parents seems to have little or no interest or effect in controlling them. I'd be interested to see comparisons with other european cities just to see if this is endemic in youngsters europe-wide. I'm 32 and do rememeber the odd death or serious assault being reported as I grew up but this is just crazy.
 
That is a horrible story. These pack animals need serious attention from somebody but who??? The police seem to be totally ineffective at preventing crime and parents seems to have little or no interest or effect in controlling them. I'd be interested to see comparisons with other european cities just to see if this is endemic in youngsters europe-wide. I'm 32 and do rememeber the odd death or serious assault being reported as I grew up but this is just crazy.

there parents will probably say something like this "it's that ******* gothics fault that lieing scum my boy would never do anything like that"

a lot of the time there as bad as the kids
 
what we should do is just make it illegal for people under a certain age to buy alcohol, as they clearly don't know what they're doing with it!

I like this plan but I could almost swear I've heard it somewhere before.

There isn't too much to say about the actual story other than it is a tragedy that someone should be killed and another beaten simply for the clothes they wear - assuming of course that is all there was to it.
 
In the least trollish way possible, if it was drunks that killed a "chav" then everyone would be happy, i'm sure...

But that really is sad :(

Exactly what I was thinking mate. For all we know the lovely goth chap gave the drunk a right earful. Still shouldn't of gone as far as it did granted but we'll never know what really went on.
 
Sad to say it but when i saw the story a while ago i knew that the reason they were assaulted was because of the way they looked.

I'm not saying that it was right what happened to them, but unfortunately being 'different' makes you a target.
 
I find it slightly shocking that such a high percentage of people don't even know what a "Goth" is! Wearing black clothes and sporting black & purple hair doesn't automatically make someone a "Goth".
 
Exactly what I was thinking mate. For all we know the lovely goth chap gave the drunk a right earful. Still shouldn't of gone as far as it did granted but we'll never know what really went on.

well apparently the conversation was friendly, and this must come from *** friends of the 5 who beat them to death, because the victim has no memory of what happened and the other is dead, so we do know quite a bit about what happened.
 
Stories like this make me mad. The legal system needs more power to deal with early teens. They know right from wrong, especially murder at that age. No protection because there "children" should be given.
 
who bets their out before their 20?

They need to be named and shamed! I hate it also when I read stuff like this and it says the accused denies murder. They should be charged with murder and not something like manslaughter, being drunk isn't an excuse.

4 others have pled guilty so will probably give evidence agasint him, and he'll be found guilty.

Still I wonder how the police found out who they where, who did it, cctv or other means?
 
there parents will probably say something like this "it's that ******* gothics fault that lieing scum my boy would never do anything like that"

a lot of the time there as bad as the kids

Thats probably down to the parents being nothing more than kids themselves in most cases :(

I find it slightly shocking that such a high percentage of people don't even know what a "Goth" is! Wearing black clothes and sporting black & purple hair doesn't automatically make someone a "Goth".

Couldn't agree more, I've a few friends that are goths - i like the same music as them and go to concerts with them. However i choose to dress normally (which is down to individual opinion)

Who am I to judge an individual on what they wear? The sad state of affairs dictates these youths will be given anonymity and if found guilty their punishment will be severely lax, after all education/rehabilitation is better than punishment isn't it? :rolleyes:
 
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