Dog attack
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Sorry to hear about this, not really the same but I have been involved in an incident before with our old dog (Sam, golden retriever) and a person not another dog.
Please note Sam was not a vicious dog, granted he was massive for a retriever yes, mostly just a loveable big mound of fur that was very playful but also protective of his home, due to this we had a sign up on the gate "Warning Large Dog", and he always wore a muzzle when out. This was not because we thought he would attack anyone, but to remove the possibility.
We used to have a cleaner (well not for long after this), One day the doorbell went and she opened the door (and she didn't restrain Sam, still not sure why she thought she should answer the door anyway as I was in and it wasn't her house) and a hand with a catalogue was thrust at her by a betterware salesman. Sam (who had been sleeping by the door and the doorbell woke him) took offence to this unwanted hand in his territory and promptly attacked the salesman and bit the guys arm, the cleaner was going mad, the betterware guy was swearing a lot and bleeding quite a bit with a dog stuck on his arm. I got Sam off him and put him inside, made a temp bandage with a teatowel and offered to drive him to the doctors, he refused and walked off informing us he was calling the police (he had to have stitches in the end as it was quite a nasty bite). The police came round and were fine really, they just informed us he had made a complaint, had stitches and was pressing charges and for Sam to be put down.
He then took us to court, fortunately the judge sided with us as we had a sign up outside warning of large dogs and Sam was only protecting his territory, after explaining that he always wears a muzzle when out and the sign had already been there for years the judges verdict was to make sure he had muzzle on all the time when out walking and always on a lead.
Unfortunately Sam was put down a couple of years ago due to stomach tumours
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Enough wittering on it was just to point out that dogs are animals, and they will act like it, sometimes unexpected and out of character for the dog, it is just better to be safe and not sorry when out and about (ie make them wear a muzzle), especially if you have a dog that can potentially inflict a lot of harm if it does have a moment.
This is not aimed at you Gilly, but the guy whos dog bit yours, if it was wearing a muzzle it might of growled and barked a bit (as much as it could) but that would have been the end of it.
Excuse the length and babble of my post (late, bit of beer/vodka so don't expect quality grammar or punctuation
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Please note Sam was not a vicious dog, granted he was massive for a retriever yes, mostly just a loveable big mound of fur that was very playful but also protective of his home, due to this we had a sign up on the gate "Warning Large Dog", and he always wore a muzzle when out. This was not because we thought he would attack anyone, but to remove the possibility.
We used to have a cleaner (well not for long after this), One day the doorbell went and she opened the door (and she didn't restrain Sam, still not sure why she thought she should answer the door anyway as I was in and it wasn't her house) and a hand with a catalogue was thrust at her by a betterware salesman. Sam (who had been sleeping by the door and the doorbell woke him) took offence to this unwanted hand in his territory and promptly attacked the salesman and bit the guys arm, the cleaner was going mad, the betterware guy was swearing a lot and bleeding quite a bit with a dog stuck on his arm. I got Sam off him and put him inside, made a temp bandage with a teatowel and offered to drive him to the doctors, he refused and walked off informing us he was calling the police (he had to have stitches in the end as it was quite a nasty bite). The police came round and were fine really, they just informed us he had made a complaint, had stitches and was pressing charges and for Sam to be put down.
He then took us to court, fortunately the judge sided with us as we had a sign up outside warning of large dogs and Sam was only protecting his territory, after explaining that he always wears a muzzle when out and the sign had already been there for years the judges verdict was to make sure he had muzzle on all the time when out walking and always on a lead.
Unfortunately Sam was put down a couple of years ago due to stomach tumours
.Enough wittering on it was just to point out that dogs are animals, and they will act like it, sometimes unexpected and out of character for the dog, it is just better to be safe and not sorry when out and about (ie make them wear a muzzle), especially if you have a dog that can potentially inflict a lot of harm if it does have a moment.
This is not aimed at you Gilly, but the guy whos dog bit yours, if it was wearing a muzzle it might of growled and barked a bit (as much as it could) but that would have been the end of it.
Excuse the length and babble of my post (late, bit of beer/vodka so don't expect quality grammar or punctuation
)
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Only to someone who hasn't a clue.
There is NO Kennel Registered classification OR Crufts classification for "English Bull Terrier". They are "Bull Terriers".
Regardless of time or day if your dog can't control its self it shouldn't be let off the lead. Your mam is in the wrong here, im sorry to say, I love all dogs and I would hate to say it should be kept on the lead but you have said its young and how ever long the lead on the other dog was it was still on a lead.
KaHn
KaHn
If your mother thinks it was a pitbull you should have been onto the police straight away, as if it was a pitpull he has broken the law already by not having a muzzle on him, and apart from that to own a pitbull in the uk you must, have the pitbull
tattooed
micro chipped
Insured
registered with the unlawful dogs list and
neutered
if he hasn't got any of them he is also breaking the law and then the dog will be put down and the owner will be prosecuted. very simple and thats why pitbulls are rare in this country, and the word ''Pitbull'' is over used in most cases.
tattooed
micro chipped
Insured
registered with the unlawful dogs list and
neutered
if he hasn't got any of them he is also breaking the law and then the dog will be put down and the owner will be prosecuted. very simple and thats why pitbulls are rare in this country, and the word ''Pitbull'' is over used in most cases.
Just trying to re-educate you to something that is correct, but if you 'don't give a toss' then forgive me, you obviously wish to continue your life not knowing full facts.
Im sorry but im gettin annoyed at this, Gillys dog was off the lead by his own account, the dog is young and not trained, it ran at another dog who (regardless of type of lead) was on a lead and the got in to a scuffle, Gilly/His mam is in the wrong for letting his dog off the lead.
Im sorry but regardless of the feelings of OcUK it is wrong to let any un tamed dog off the lead.
KaHn
Yes i'm perfectly happy to continue being ignorant, i like cats better anyway.
Agreed. I like a spot of pussy.
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I didn't think the bull terrier was on the dangerous dogs act, isn't it the American pit bull? they're a lot bigger than stafford/bull terriers. anyway's sorry to hear about your doggy
(nevermind i got confused while reading through a few posts about the bullterrier thing and somehow made the jump to the pitbull)
(nevermind i got confused while reading through a few posts about the bullterrier thing and somehow made the jump to the pitbull)
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Sorry to hear about your dog Gilly, hope he and your mum are doing ok.
Not sure how I would have reacted if that would have been me out with my dog.
So what if she let him off the lead the other owner sounds a complete arse and should have controlled his dog instead of shouting abuse ;/
I'm not sure if the police will follow it up due to her letting him off the lead but without trying you will never know for sure.
The next dog which is unlucky enough to apporach that owners dog could end up dead.
Not sure how I would have reacted if that would have been me out with my dog.
So what if she let him off the lead the other owner sounds a complete arse and should have controlled his dog instead of shouting abuse ;/
I'm not sure if the police will follow it up due to her letting him off the lead but without trying you will never know for sure.
The next dog which is unlucky enough to apporach that owners dog could end up dead.
Gilly's dog possibly should have been on a lead, but that doesn't discount the fact that a large (by the sounds of it) dog with potential issues regarding it's behaviour with other dogs (and by extension) possibly humans wasn't muzzled, and the owner even with a lead lacked control of it.
A lead isn't the be all and end all of proper control of an animal, especially where it's a large animal and the owner (by the sounds of it) wasn't paying attention or willing to actually attempt control of the animal.
A lead won't even allow a lot of people to (easily) pull back many breeds of dog (and if Gillys' dog was on a lead and the other dog attacked it, there is no guarantee that the other dog wouldn't keep going after his dog/mum).
Our dog is a (fairly thick
) toy poodle, and yes he's always on a lead (mainly for his protection), but we also put a muzzle on him at times if we think there is any chance he might try and bite, which means he gets it put on outside the vets (I would trust him with most children, but he gets freaked out going into the vets).
Dogs fight all the time. Our terriers always get into a scrap if let off the led, hence why they're never let off now.
Dogs will fight, it's as simple as that. Some dogs will be more game than others. The other guy was probably as shocked as your mum and didn't know what to do. If you know him, go and have a word. Don't go to the police unless you think his dog is a genuine danger to humans.
Dogs will fight, it's as simple as that. Some dogs will be more game than others. The other guy was probably as shocked as your mum and didn't know what to do. If you know him, go and have a word. Don't go to the police unless you think his dog is a genuine danger to humans.
I didn't think the bull terrier was on the dangerous dogs act, isn't it the American pit bull? they're a lot bigger than stafford/bull terriers. anyway's sorry to hear about your doggy
(nevermind i got confused while reading through a few posts about the bullterrier thing and somehow made the jump to the pitbull)
Yes a pit bull is on the dangerous dogs act which he says it possibly was......
Pit Bull Terrier
Japanese Tosa
Dogo Argentino
Fila Brasileiro
there the 4 on the dangerous dogs act. and if you own any of them in the UK you must have the dog:
Registered with the dangerous dogs act
Muzzled when out of your premises
Tattooed
Micro chipped
Neutered and
Insured
If you dont have them all done and you own one of the above dogs you are breaking the law.
And pit bulls are huge compared to common staffs, but long legged staffs are about the same size, i was watching discovery a while back and in America, and possibly over here (not so much over here), well the illegal dog fights that they have where the 99% of the time use pit bulls, the police take in staffs to stop the fights, as a staffy wont give up in a fight, where as a pit bull will. so they put a staffy in and the pit bulls stop fighting within seconds. some useless information for you
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Dog owners become idiots when their dog does something wrong.. its funny how they straight away blame the other person and their dog, it makes me so angry.
A few weeks ago my dad was walking my dog and out of the blue comes this other dog that starts attacking my dog, biting and growling, and it isn't the type of friendly play that goes on. My dad shouts out to the owner of this out of control dog which is trying to fight my dog and tells him to get his dog away and on the lead. He does nothing and this dog keeps attacking my dog. So my dad (too f'ing right) gets the metal part of the lead that connects to the collier and smacks it over this other dogs nose. The owner is all in my dads face swearing and all telling him why u hit my dog.. you know it just makes me bloody sick really. That there are people out there that are so stupid and thick, they shouldn't be allowed to own dogs.
I hope your mums dog recovers soon.. Best thing (and what I do now) is to keep your dog on the lead until your very sure that there are no other threating dogs in the park. If he likes to wonder around then he really shouldn't be off the lead in the first place though, not because he is dangerous, but because he might get himself into danger.
A few weeks ago my dad was walking my dog and out of the blue comes this other dog that starts attacking my dog, biting and growling, and it isn't the type of friendly play that goes on. My dad shouts out to the owner of this out of control dog which is trying to fight my dog and tells him to get his dog away and on the lead. He does nothing and this dog keeps attacking my dog. So my dad (too f'ing right) gets the metal part of the lead that connects to the collier and smacks it over this other dogs nose. The owner is all in my dads face swearing and all telling him why u hit my dog.. you know it just makes me bloody sick really. That there are people out there that are so stupid and thick, they shouldn't be allowed to own dogs.
I hope your mums dog recovers soon.. Best thing (and what I do now) is to keep your dog on the lead until your very sure that there are no other threating dogs in the park. If he likes to wonder around then he really shouldn't be off the lead in the first place though, not because he is dangerous, but because he might get himself into danger.
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Yes a pit bull is on the dangerous dogs act which he says it possibly was......
I know pit bulls are on the dangerous dogs act BUT as far as i know its only the Amstaffs/Pitbulls/Irish staffs which are Illegal to own in the UK. i didn't think the "english" pit bull was, which is what i was talking about.