Record Ronaldo Bid
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yes its true. but our striking options without rooney do leave something to be desired to be fair.
I am not saying that Rooney doesnt make a huge impact for us, but the truth is that ronaldo makes more.
and yes 3 quality players like that, but can all 3 still be bought for 30million? and would ultimately cost more in terms of 3x the wages.
Exactly.
£100m and he would go. I'm sure of that. Why bring £200m into the equation? It isn't ever going to happen...
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henrik larsson at his peak was better than ronaldo is now
he is a good player, but hes also a moany little ****, hes always complaining, i wouldnt want him in my team
he wont be a world class player until he has proved himself on the big stage several times, which takes at least 5 years of big games
ronaldo (the brazilian) was instantly claimed as being the best, but he was crap at the world cup, then ronaldhino was claimed as the best next time round
the best player just now without a doubt is ronaldhino - he is a true team player, with no ego and he works his hardest to put his teamates in the best position to score, he isnt a glory hunter or a moany little ****
christiano ronaldo doesnt even come in the top 5 currently
hes probably in the top 10 though
he isnt worth 100million either maybe £50 million max
he is a good player, but hes also a moany little ****, hes always complaining, i wouldnt want him in my team
he wont be a world class player until he has proved himself on the big stage several times, which takes at least 5 years of big games
ronaldo (the brazilian) was instantly claimed as being the best, but he was crap at the world cup, then ronaldhino was claimed as the best next time round
the best player just now without a doubt is ronaldhino - he is a true team player, with no ego and he works his hardest to put his teamates in the best position to score, he isnt a glory hunter or a moany little ****
christiano ronaldo doesnt even come in the top 5 currently
hes probably in the top 10 though
he isnt worth 100million either maybe £50 million max
Try watching football more then. He's easily the best. He's quite literally an entire league ahead of the others classed as his peers this year.
Ronaldo has been incredibly consistent for well over a year now, 38 goals in 41 games is pretty impressive, no? Especially from the wing.
Strikers aren't matching that anywhere, let alone wingers.
I was trying to put together a list of the best players in the World, but the problem is trying to put people at the same level as Ronaldo in there and there isn't anyone at the moment.
Rafa?
Ronaldo has been the best in the world for the last 6-7 months but not miles ahead tbh. It would have been interesting to see what Messi could have done hadn't had an injury plagued season. The way he started the season was more impressive than what Ronaldo has produced at any time this season.
Rafa?
Ronaldo has been the best in the world for the last 6-7 months but not miles ahead tbh. It would have been interesting to see what Messi could have done hadn't had an injury plagued season. The way he started the season was more impressive than what Ronaldo has produced at any time this season.
Agreed, Messi just needs to avoid injury for a while and I think a lot of people will agree that he is better than Ronaldo.
No he wasn't. Larsson was class, but he was in the Scottish leagues and played for Sweden. Would he have done the job in England? Definitely, but he wouldn't have been as prolific.
He's not a complainer like Lampard/Terry/Fabregas, but I'd be complaining with some of the tackles he rides.
Our best player in Europe last year. The best player in Europe this year. Best player in the EPL Two seasons running. Got Portugal to the final of Euro 2004 almost single handedly (including scoring several important goals), Dragged Portugal through the rounds in the World Cup in 2006 until Bouhlarouz wiped him out of action (and was probably the best player at the tournament for impact).
Saying he doesn't perform on the big stage is wrong and always has been, he's continually performed in the League, in Cups, in Europe AND on the International stage.
Crap at the World Cup? He was the best player at the World Cup til his fit in the Changing Room. He was then the top scorer at the next World Cup.
The same Ronaldinho who has been so poor for so long that Nike have refused to use him in advertising campaigns for 14 months. The same Ronaldinho who has been dropped from the Barcelona squad several times to accomodate Bojan/Dos Santos/Iniesta.
You seem adament on not calling Ronaldo a team player when he really is one. Ronaldo gets in the best positions, takes the pressure off the strikers, helps the team with his running, his breaks and dribbles. On top of that he doesn't carry a huge Ego, he's always said he wants to be the best, but off the pitch you won't meet a nicer guy - and that's from LOADS of different reports.
I'm afraid he does. You just don't want to admit it. Ronaldo is quite clearly #1. You name Ronaldinho who has had a terrible season (and wasn't great last season) and who hasn't even been playing on numerous occasions.
I don't think it's that simple.
It's not just a case of avoiding injury but being able to remain consistent. What Ronaldo has done is amazing and whether Messi could have continued what he ws doing is a huge question.
What I mean though is that Messi is a better player, but the only way he can prove it is by being consistent (not performance-wise buy the amount of games he plays).
Messi did play a large section of the season and statistically he was behind Ronaldo in every department for minutes played. Messi has also played upfront for Barcelona in Eto'o's absence - so he should be in opportunities.
Messi is undoubtedly a very talented player, but he can't do what Ronaldo does which is totally dominate teams with every element of his game, his pace, his height, his strength, his set-pieces, his power, his aerial ability.
Then let us not forget, Ronaldo does what he does in England.
So how is he a better player then? If Ronaldo has done what he has done better than Messi, done what he's done longer, more consistently and in a more difficult environment (the EPL).
Umm... Messi position hasn't changed, Bojan replaced Eto'o if anything.
I don't think Ronaldo is better, that's my point. Messi can't exactly prove that without playing though. As for goals to games ratio etc. It's difficult to come back from injury and then hit form straight away, Ronaldo has been able to stay on a roll by avoiding injury.
Except assists.
Although Ronaldo is a winger he has also played quite a bit upfront and even as a winger it's not as if he stays wide either.
Just checked wiki (so may not be right) and Messi has only played 29 matches this year and that has been stop-start too.
Tbh Messi, like Zidane didn't, doesn't need the physical attributes. He just walks past people. Imo he's techincally the best player there's been for a very long time.
The style of player Ronaldo is, playing in England is an advantage if anything. Torres has stated several times that he gets far more space playing over here than he ever did in Spain.
And that's Ronaldo's fault? Ronaldo has been himself up for the EPL (a rougher, faster and harder league let us not forget) so he does even better to not get injured (and he gets a lot of bad tackles).
You're talking as if Messi hasn't played a lot this season when in fact he has. Last season people raved about Messi as being the best in the world even though he played less games than John O'Shea - and that was without injury.
People get carried away with players abroad and how good they are. They don't see as much, but from what they hear from foreign press, word of mouth or highlight reels (the most guilty party - highlight reels could make Wes Brown look the best defender on Earth).
The problem I have is when statistical fact stares people straight in the face and they choose to ignore it.
You're talking as if Messi hasn't played a lot this season when in fact he has. Last season people raved about Messi as being the best in the world even though he played less games than John O'Shea - and that was without injury.
People get carried away with players abroad and how good they are. They don't see as much, but from what they hear from foreign press, word of mouth or highlight reels (the most guilty party - highlight reels could make Wes Brown look the best defender on Earth).
The problem I have is when statistical fact stares people straight in the face and they choose to ignore it.
I believe they were level (though Ronaldo had played more minutes).
Ronaldo begins almost every move from the wing and the team flow around him accordingly. He's started 3 or 4 games upfront this season. He moves wings and makes moves into the box. You only need to see MotD to see just how much effort Ronaldo makes to get into the box to score his goals and how quickly he approaches the box.
Messi is undoubtedly very good at getting past players, his close control is fantastic. Technically he's brilliant at it.
Ronaldo developed that style, he was nothing like he is now when we signed him.
As for Torres getting more space, that's not true, he may be marked in different ways, but I watched a LOT of him in Spain. He's a far better player now, but Liverpool move MUCH better and develop space and supply him with balls leagues ahead of what Athletico could do.