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The next Gen thread - R700 and GT200

The 3870 X2 is faster than the Ultra, so yeah, for a few weeks ATi were in the lead.

Anyway, I would've thought you guys had realised that what nvidia calls a card means nothing these days. They could well bring out a 9800 GTX that is five times as fast as the current 9800 GTX and not say a bloody word about it...
 
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If they shrink the dye there will be more chips per wafer of silicon & thus be cheaper to produce, also why the price hike for 2 year old tech?

If it wasn't for high end cards pushing technology, what shape would the low end market be in & Jo Bloggs with his new 24" monitor cant do much 3D & the poor old laptop dies at the thought of new shader models.
 
What are the chances of AMD/ATI not delivering by late June?

I was JUST about to buy a 3870XT to upgrade from a X850XT PE (Sold my 2900XT for £110) and now I'm thinking can I wait two months on this X850XT and then buy a next gen card...:o

P.S, Going by that review a page back, will the prices be 'around' the same as the 3870XT? Say no more than £150 for a decent-ish card?
 
Apparantly the GT200 will be, but rumour has it that wont be released until November :(

Yep, which is why i think the 9900's will be the 55nm 8800's that are coming in June/July, and not the GT200's as everyone thinks, as the 9 series are already 8800's, and the GT200's are supposed to be the next gen. :)
 
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yep the 55nm are apparantly the ones coming out in June/july. But if Ati's next card (released in May?) beats the pants of the Gx2 then I think they may bring the GT200 forward (if possible)
 
yep the 55nm are apparantly the ones coming out in June/July.

Yeah, and the only number they can give them is the 9900's, as they have to have a greater number than 9800, and also have to still be under the 9 series numbering now, as Nvidia went to 9800 from 8800, instead of going to 8900, so that means all 8800 refresh cards are now all under the 9 series numbering.:)
 
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Usually the ones that do canned benchmarked, this one actually tests gameplay, best not bring up [H]'s results. :p

*No hotlinking please*

Hardocps results at best are debatable. Playing through a level in a game and doing everything exactly the same each time would be very hard to do. In something like cod4 with the hits smoke bombs can give looking in the wrong direction at the wrong time could end up making one card have better average frame rates, which is really all that matters.

When its all said and done though the majority of sites gave the x2 the nod over the ultra.
 
When its all said and done though the majority of sites gave the x2 the nod over the ultra.

That's only because you dismiss the results that you don't like and choose to favour results that use canned benckmarks, fixed timedemos and cutscenes, you might as well just run 3dmark06 and buy cards based on that alone. :rolleyes:

How about this another new game, DX10, whats wrong with the X2?

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=544&pageid=18
 
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could be 9850?

Oh yes thats my guess also, Nvidia love tweeking and adding a feature or 2 and calling it a new card, saves them plenty of money and gives so much headache to ATI.

Thats the beauty of releasing such a powerful/fast chipset that just got it right in all areas.... you can hold onto that for a very long time.

We can only hope in May the new ATI card catches up or just offers more to the plate then Nvidia can.
 
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