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Nehalem chipset won't do SLI

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Jensen, look what you did


Bosnian people tend to say don’t play with fire if you are not a fireman, and Jensen Huang is everything but a fireman.

We learned that Intel is really upset with a little green thing called Nvidia and that the chipset that will support Nehalem CPUs codenamed Bloomfield won't support SLI.

This is not big news, as traditionally the X38 and X48 high end chipset in its reference boards didn't support SLI, and yet again Intel was fine.

First generation Nehalem won't do SLI, but it will support Crossfire, as Intel likes AMD more than Nvidia, which is kind of an awkward situation.

If there is a mechanism for Intel to remove Nvidia from its chipset list for future products, this is highly likely to happen. Just remember the Nforce 680i where Intel intentionally forgot to tell Nvidia that it changed the Yorkfield 45nm quad-cores and the final score is that Nforce 680i doesn’t run with 45nm quad-cores.

This cost Nvidia a lot of money, as it decided to swap all Nforce 680i reference designed boards for 780i and this happened when Intel was rather cold to Nvidia. It also caused an upset in the market, as not all of Nvidia's partners got in on the upgrade scheme.

Well, Nvidia wanted a fight and a fight is what they're going to get.
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I didn't know were to post this or if it was posted thats a shame if it will not support sli but it will support crossfire so ati has a big chance here.
 
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So Nvidia has a chipset & physics (PhysX vs Havok) war with Intel on one front, and a chipset & graphics war on the AMD side.

Not looking too good.
 
not to mention they're hemmed in by their lack of an X86 license, and now there's no way in hell they'll get one from intel...

that GT200 better be one heck of a chip, otherwise they could be in real trouble soon
 
ATI to leave AMD and join Intel ftw?

EDIT: My posts always have a tendancy to kill threads. You're welcome :).
 
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Guess I won't be going the SLI route in the future then. Not the I am likely to for some time, if ever, go to a multi-card setup, but choice would be nice.

Its hard to decide who they are doing more harm to by not licensing SLI to Intel - themselves or the consumers...

Sure, they may sell a few less of their own chipsets, but they will more than likely sell a whole lot more cards.
 
looks liek intel is basically trying to kill off nvidia as a chipset manufacturer - and they will if they wont allow them to use their next gen of cpus on an nvidia chipset and amd dont strike back with something amazing. if intel do continue to dominate with their new cpus and dont allow nvidia to use them it puts them in a very dominant position to a strike at nvidia in the graphics segment
 
this is nothing new really. Apparently nvidia are about to aquire a comapany with an x86 license anyway to that's moot.

nVidia were meant to be making skulltrail, but didnt. that's what the spat is about.

It just means that there will be a 880i chipset from nvidia. And it will probably rock.

be interesting to watch the battle pan out, as the little green fellas are sitting on a lot of revenue at the moment with grand success in the console and pervasive hand held markets, not to mention the GPUs they are shifting my the barrow load.
 
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Its pretty clear that Nvidia will not get a Nehalem chipset license unless they provide Intel with SLI rights, seeing as Intel chipset crush any buggy POS chipset Nvidia make its win win :p There will be no 880i chipsets without a license.
 
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The pair of them are as bad as each other.

Nvidia won't give an SLI license to Intel.
Intel won't license there cpu virtualization to Nvidia.

Tweedledee and Tweedledum is what these two companies should be called. There both a pair of kids throwing there toys out of the pram.
 
I find it totally unsurprising that Intel would be uncooperative to Nvidia. The whole SLI license issue is a joke. Intel are a major force in the development of PCI Express which Nvidia rely on. There is no special modification required to make a 2x16 PCI Express motherboard work in SLI.

Early hacked drivers enabled SLI for the 7900 era cards, its purely a software issue, designed by Nvidia to force people to buy Nforce chipset motherboards.

Intel designed the BadAxe motherboard with enough PCI lanes to support SLI and Crossfire (sure early 975BX boards only have 2x8PCIe which isnt good enough for the new 8800's in sli), but nvidia never opened up the drivers.

To get SLI on Skulltrail the motherboard manufacturer has the option to include an Nvidia northbridge alongside Intels own, which will enable SLI. But thats silly solution, adding another hot chip to the motherboard.

If Nvidia had been a little more reasonable with its drivers, then I would imagine Intel would be more willing to work with them. At the end of the day Nvidia are cutting their noses to spite their faces... Afterall, Im pretty sure there are people with intel chipsets who would like to run SLI, but are not prepared to replace their motherboards to get an Nvidia chipset.

I heard there may be some questionmarks about the company Nvidia is looking to buy, that could indicate that the X86 licence may be non transferrable. Also VIA's price is currently rather more than Nvidia would like.
 
mdjmcnally said:
The pair of them are as bad as each other.

Nvidia won't give an SLI license to Intel.
Intel won't license there cpu virtualization to Nvidia.

Tweedledee and Tweedledum is what these two companies should be called. There both a pair of kids throwing there toys out of the pram.
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I think it best that nvidia don't give there SLI license to intel.....

As SLI is one the main things that sells nvidia nforce motherboards......(nvidia would lose 1000's of motherboard sales if intel motherboards also supported SLI)
 
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Don't see why it should bother anyone as SLi is rubbish, you can only use the same cards, and it can't even do dual screens, pmsl. :D

If i was gona go dual cards, be CrossfireX all the way, much, much better system than that old crap, its about time Nvidia got with the times tbh and updated the ****. :)

Nvidia's gona be screwed if AMD come up with a killer card thats better than theirs, or can compete well, as at the moment its Nvidia with the fastests cards, but the poor dual card solution, AMD with the poorer cards, but the much better dual card solution, just get that good card out and they'll have both, or both should combine, Nvidia can do the cards, and AMD can shove em in dual, and do the drivers as well while they on. :p

Bit of luck though it may give Nvidia the kick up the arse they sorley need and actually bloody do something. :D
 
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All ifs, buts and maybes. Another "true" article from Fudzilla? i'm amazed anyone on here still believes that stuff!
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Don't see why it should bother anyone as SLi is rubbish, you can only use the same cards, and it can't even do dual screens, pmsl. :D
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Why do you think SLI is rubbish :confused: ,,for high res gaming i see no other option apart from using an SLI setup...(apart from turning all the ingame detail settings down)

(P.S i don't use dual screens)
 
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NVidia know that the second they let Intel boards support SLI, their entire chipset market disappears as 99% of customers will go Intel.

This is a pathetic attitude - either produce a chipset which can stand on its own two feet and compete with Intel chipsets without the crutch of SLI support or ***** off out of the market and concentrate on graphics cards.
 
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