2008 Spanish GP - Race 4/18

Nick1881 · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:01

The Ice Man does it!

jaykay · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:01

WOW, nice one Alonso. :eek:

SDK^ · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:01

Nice 1 Alonso.

Scratchy · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:02

Alonso's probably going to come in on about his 5th lap tomorrow

Skeeter · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:03

Scratchy said:
Alonso's probably going to come in on about his 5th lap tomorrow

Quoted for truth!

JRS · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:04

I bet that's annoying the crowd. Good to see the petulant Spanish git couldn't quite make it onto pole.

Memphis · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:04

Scratchy said:
Alonso's probably going to come in on about his 5th lap tomorrow

You're giving him that far?

Mr_White · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:06

Allen: "All the drivers know every inch of the back of their hand of this track"

Yeah... :/

SDK^ · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:07

Scratchy said:
Alonso's probably going to come in on about his 5th lap tomorrow

Work it out
Alonso is exactly 1.1 seconds slower in Q3 than Q2 (low fuel). How much fuel does 1.1 seconds equate to?

Mark JB · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:08

Really enjoyed that qualifying, nearly tossed my macbook across the room in surprise when Alonso got pole

NathanE · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:09

What was the point in that... he didn't even wave or celebrate for his fans! Utterly pointless exercise! He just puts himself at risk for the race because there's going to be a lot of cars wanting to overtake him as early as possible.

rpstewart · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:10

SDK^ said:
How much fuel does 1.1 seconds equate to?

A fair bit I think but most folk are ~1.5s down on Q2 so I think he's light.

Code:

Pos  Driver        Team                 Q1        Q2        Q3       Laps
 1.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              1:20.701  1:20.784  1:21.813  17
 2.  Alonso        Renault              1:21.347  1:20.804  1:21.904  18
 3.  Massa         Ferrari              1:21.528  1:20.584  1:22.058  16
 4.  Kubica        BMW Sauber           1:21.423  1:20.597  1:22.065  13
 5.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes     1:21.366  1:20.825  1:22.096  14
 6.  Kovalainen    McLaren-Mercedes     1:21.430  1:20.817  1:22.231  15
 7.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     1:21.494  1:20.984  1:22.429  19
 8.  Trulli        Toyota               1:21.158  1:20.907  1:22.529  19
 9.  Heidfeld      BMW Sauber           1:21.466  1:20.815  1:22.542  20
10.  Piquet        Renault              1:21.409  1:20.894  1:22.699  18
11.  Barrichello   Honda                1:21.548  1:21.049            12
12.  Nakajima      Williams-Toyota      1:21.690  1:21.117            15
13.  Button        Honda                1:21.757  1:21.211            12
14.  Glock         Toyota               1:21.427  1:21.230            16
15.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      1:21.472  1:21.349            15
16.  Bourdais      Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1:21.540  1:21.724            15
17.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     1:21.810                       6
18.  Vettel        Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1:22.108                      10
19.  Fisichella    Force India-Ferrari  1:22.516                      11
20.  Sutil         Force India-Ferrari  1:23.224                       8
21.  Davidson      Super Aguri-Honda    1:23.318                       9
22.  Sato          Super Aguri-Honda    1:23.496                       9

JRS · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:14

NathanE said:
What was the point in that... he didn't even wave or celebrate for his fans! Utterly pointless exercise! He just puts himself at risk for the race because there's going to be a lot of cars wanting to overtake him as early as possible.

Sorry? It was pointless of Alonso, a racing driver, to try and go for pole?

Housey · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:14

Skeeter said:
OMG I watched F1 and Touring Cars and all motorsport is rubbish!!

Seriously dude, theres LOTS out there. Single make championships are much more interesting anyway, its all driver skill. I do agree, F1 is boring at the mo, will hopefully be sorted next year.

I have been watching motorsport live since 1976 and have attended hundreds of events over the years. I have probably missed 10 Autosports since 1979, subscribe to Motorsport and take most of the major motorsport magazines weekly and monthly and have something in the region of 100 books on the sport. Its fair to say I am somewhat 'well read' and experienced on the Motorsport front and you are right, there is plenty of good motorsport out there each weekend, just not at the top level in my opinion

I used to adore Sports Car racing, both Group 5/6 and Group C and I was bored to tears watching the GT's at Silverstone last weekend. Go figure, I might just be getting old

SDK^ · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:20

Taking Massa as a time/fuel comparison (to Alonso) as he is one of the few drivers who pushed to the maximum in Q2.

Massa was 1.6 seconds slower in Q3 than Q2 so he is carrying 0.5 seconds a lap more fuel than Alonso (1.1 secs slower in Q3 than Q2). Brundle said 10kg of fuel was around 0.2-0.3 seconds per lap which means Massa has around 20kg more fuel than Alonso.

Barcelona track has a consumption of about 3kg of fuel per lap meaning Massa has around 6-7 laps more fuel than Alonso.

Housey · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:22

I saw them fill Alonso's car up with a thimble, I hear they might try and refuel him after the warm up lap

Skeeter · 26 Apr 2008 at 14:23

So If my guestimates based in SDKs figures are right, can we expect alonso in around laps 10-12, and Massa sort of 16-18ish?

Duke · 26 Apr 2008 at 15:17

Nice lap by Alonso. We will see how light he is tomorrow.

Shame the Honda's couldn't get through

SDK^ · 26 Apr 2008 at 15:45

Interesting that Force India thought they could get Fisichella into Q2 but they were 1 second off doing it - way off really.

Lunatic Dreyfus · 26 Apr 2008 at 15:53

Tomorrow looks like it might be fun.

Kimi can run away, hide and then win the race while the rest of the muppets fall over themselves trying to pass Ferdy.

Alonso might be a plonker, but good on him for getting second. That'll annoy a lot of people.