Shall i get a PS3?

[wannabedamned]

SNIP

lol, I can't be assed trying to counter everything.

But I'll say this. Most people who have a PS3 have a HDTV, Most HD tv's come with built in freeview, and most homes have Digital TV, So why stream TV channels using a console?

2nd, The PS3 can do everything the 360 can + Bluray + It's quieter + The internal drive on the PS3 can be used, which means it can be a standalone player + It can also stream via it's internet browser, Which the 360 lacks. BBC IPlayer works now via a Ps3 version.

The Better Xbox live... This is software, At it's infrastructure, PSN has the better promise, With updates PSN could easily overtake what Live offers. Live works on a P2P basis, Which is it's downfall.


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[Chris1712]

Tbh I very much doubt the 80GB will make it over here, although you could import one?

Its a real kick in the nads tbh, if i buy a 2nd hand 60gb, wont have much if any warranty left, if i import ill have no warranty .

Sucks, the MGS4 bundle in the US is perfect (80gb bc/DS3) and i would snap one up should it be released over her. The UK 40gb just seems like such a sucker punch from sony, they always treat us brits badly. I dont want a cut down version of what you wanted to make thanks.

 

[Macro]

lol, I can't be assed trying to counter everything.

But I'll say this. Most people who have a PS3 have a HDTV, Most HD tv's come with built in freeview, and most homes have Digital TV, So why stream TV channels using a console?

2nd, The PS3 can do everything the 360 can + Bluray + It's quieter + The internal drive on the PS3 can be used, which means it can be a standalone player + It can also stream via it's internet browser, Which the 360 lacks. BBC IPlayer works now via a Ps3 version.

The Better Xbox live... This is software, At it's infrastructure, PSN has the better promise, With updates PSN could easily overtake what Live offers. Live works on a P2P basis, Which is it's downfall.

I don't mean to be rude but you come across as both ill informed and a bit of a fanboy to be honest.

You don't use the 360 to stream TV programs, you use it to replay recorded content, be it recorded TV and films held on Media Centre (Sky + type functinality) or downloaded films, music & TV series from Live.

As far as I'm aware PS3 cannot do this which kind of shoots your second statement out of the water. PS3 also cannot do instant messenger integration along with a whole bunch of other things. I'm sorry but you're just plain wrong.

The PS3 is a great product but it's not what it could have been, and at the moment is overshadowed by the 360 in quite a few areas (with the exception of reliability and just plain sexyness at the moment). I stand by my statement that although the PS3 is good it's not great, at least not yet. Sony took thier eyes off the ball this time. **Edit** Actually i've overstated that, PS3 is NOT overshadowed as such, maybe matched or just overtaken would be a better way of putting it.

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Instead of coming across as rude fanboy repeating the Sony party line try opening your mind about this >....< much and we can have a, usefull, interesting conversation.

 

[Macro]

Good post if a little incorrect, the PS3 gets Play tv in the summer a twin HD tuner so you can use your PS3 as a PVR, and you can stream this to a PSP or even take it off the PS3 HDD and put it on what ever you like as it has no drm. There is a good thread on here about it. There already is a BBC iplayer for the PS3 although its unofficial it works very well, the Movie/Tv download stuff is also happening this year possibly announced at E3 this year.

Oooh, didn't know that, usefull info, ta.

Sony are begining to get their collective bums into gear it seems, although not convinved on the usefullness of the tuner, I assume most people wil have it hooked up to a TV anyway (although i suppose it'd be handy if you use a monitor or an older non freeview TV).

360 definatley missed a trick not having a browser, although I suspect it would have made 360 far too PC like at a price that would upset the PC manufacturers and MS partners...

PSP integration is a def Plus though for the PVR functionality thinking about it!!!

 

[wannabedamned]

When someone jumps straight to calling someone a fanboy without basis, Thats when I choose to stop debating with them. No point talking with them, When that attitude is the first thing that comes up in conversation.

I may have been wrong in saying the PS3 can record TV. But why does that make me a fanboy? hmm?

 

[Macro]

awesome, Now without get angry. Point out where I was a fanboy.

I love how when someone questions something, or gives another view they become rabid fanboys

And just let me add, It in no way blew out of the water my second point, you just chose to ignore it.

My first comment mentions Digital TV, which records TV shows. Believe it or not.

Ok, i'm not going to argue with you back and forth as you're clearly not open to discussion. Just to clarify...

But I'll say this. Most people who have a PS3 have a HDTV, Most HD tv's come with built in freeview, and most homes have Digital TV, So why stream TV channels using a console?

I don't understand the point you're making unless you're saying the upcoming PS3 tuner is pointless? Or did you misunderstand what i said and assumed I was saying the 360 would stream live TV from a PC/MCE?

2nd, The PS3 can do everything the 360 can

As I said, this isn't the case at the moment given MCE integration, IM and a few other bits and pieces. You've chosen to ignore what I said, not the other way round. This is why your second statement was incorrect and you come across as a fanboy. Not only are you wrong but illinformed "PS3 can do everything a 360 can do and more" statements do nothing for an open discussion or your credability. Perhaps it was your attidude, starting with "I can't be *****" and finishing with "make people cry"

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...see what i mean?

Have a look at MSmalls74 post for a sensible, informative post that makes for a conversation rather than pointless "my chosen console is better than yours in every way" posts.

 

[Nanoman]

I love how when someone questions something, or gives another view they become rabid fanboys

Tell me about it.

Either way lets not forget things such as integrated wifi, mem card readers (60Gb), harrdrive, blu-ray, silent operation, reliability, looks, that also come into play with media devices.

& True-HD & DTS-HD is also another.

 

[wannabedamned]

Ok, i'm not going to argue with you back and forth as you're clearly not open to discussion. Just to clarify...

For god sake! How am I not open for discussion!! I got 1 thing wrong and you called me a Rabid Fanboy, Which is an attack, and against forum rules. And i will ask you to not do it.

I was trying to talk with you, You see why I'm kinda annoyed?

There was no need for it.

Ok, i'm not going to argue with you back and forth as you're clearly not open to discussion. Just to clarify...

I don't understand the point you're making unless you're saying the upcoming PS3 tuner is pointless? Or did you misunderstand what i said and assumed I was saying the 360 would stream live TV from a PC/MCE?

The second bit, I mis understood, Which is what I said in my response

 

[Macro]

Tell me about it.

Either way lets not things such as integrated wifi, mem card readers (60Gb), blu-ray, silent operation, reliability, looks, that also come into play with media devices.

& True-HD & DTS-HD is also another.

I thought we already had.... Reliability is indeed a big deal, not so sure about WiFi as the 360 has the add on for that for people that want it (albeit at extra cost although the 360 has a head start in that area so I guess that evens out). I have to admit to not having used the WiFi much as 802.1g doesn't have the bandwidth for HiDef streaming so I stick with a cabled connection.

I thought i'd mentioned quietness and looks. the 360 can be noisy as hell playing back discs, although the current models are a lot better and no more noisey than a sky box if streaming or playing stuff from an internal/external hard drive.

Does the PS3 come with memory card readers (I dunno), sounds usefull if they do. I have to admit to being suprised, Sony tends to stick to it's own memory stick format usualy so nice to hear they're being a bit more open.

All in all (unsprisingly given there's a market for all three consoles at the moment) it's a bit of six of one and half a dosen of the other. One of the consoles is better for some stuff, the other for other.

 

[Needles]

Got a HDTV .... then the ps3 is the best thing to buy with it.

HD movie playback via industry standard blu-ray format.

HD gaming, free online, user upgradeable hard drive, excellent DVD upscaler, movies and music can be added to the HDD and played back, excellent audio.


Xbox is a good games console, ps3 is so much more and in my eyes better value for money.


Plus GTA4 runs best on PS3.

 

[wannabedamned]

Xbox is a good games console, ps3 is so much more and in my eyes better value for money.


Plus GTA4 runs best on PS3.

Agreed.

 

[Macro]

lol, I can't be assed trying to counter everything.

2nd, The PS3 can do everything the 360 can...

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This is why i refered to you as a fanboy, sweeping statements that were aggressive and not open to accepting there could be any kind of alternative, or the 360 could do some things better than the PS3.

If I mis interpreted what you said then, I apologise, but to be fair you set the tone....

 

[wannabedamned]

This is why i refered to you as a fanboy, sweeping statements that were aggressive and not open to accepting there could be any kind of alternative, or the 360 could do some things better than the PS3.

If I mis interpreted what you said then, I apologise, but to be fair you set the tone....

You see the smiles and sticking out tongues? That's usually a sign of a light mood. So attacks on me were misplaced.

So i'll accept your apology.

 

[Needles]

Don't bother calling me a fanboi, my reputation on OcUK is golden


Kidding, official OcUK PS3 fanboy here and ready to troll, lol


In all seriousness, what I said is true ....and most that diss the ps3 have never owned one. I have owned all consoles this gen ( handheld & home ), and ps3 is the one that I like the best ...... it certainly goes excellently with my 1080p bravia.

 

[Kreeeee]

Nice sig!!! Room 10, 10, where the players dwell....

Buy the ps3, Now is a good time to sell your 360 (seeing as you are thinking of trading in your old games) and using that money to further fund your ps3 purchase.

There is a GTA 4 pack which is between £299 and £319, off the top of my head.

tbh xbox 360 sux at the moment


rp2000

You're not a fanboy in the slightest

In all seriousness, what I said is true ....and most that diss the ps3 have never owned one. I have owned all consoles this gen ( handheld & home ), and ps3 is the one that I like the best ...... it certainly goes excellently with my 1080p bravia.

As have I and the Ps3 was simply redundant when there was also a 360 and Wii.

 

[Nanoman]

As have I and the Ps3 was simply redundant when there was also a 360 and Wii.

How long ago?

The only thing i haven't had this gen is a ds and i agree with needles.

 

[Kreeeee]

How long ago?

The only thing i haven't had this gen is a ds and i agree with needles.

Sold the Ps3 2 months ago.

Sold the PSP years ago.

You're a raging ho... PS3 fangirl though so naturally you'd support Sony regardless.

 

[Needles]

You're not a fanboy in the slightest



As have I and the Ps3 was simply redundant when there was also a 360 and Wii.

Shush you ......

That was then buddy ..... you need to get one now!!! MGS4, MGO and the best running version of GTA4 and resistence 2 coming soon.

Get in there.

 

[Macro]

Got a HDTV .... then the ps3 is the best thing to buy with it.

HD movie playback via industry standard blu-ray format.

HD gaming, free online, user upgradeable hard drive, excellent DVD upscaler, movies and music can be added to the HDD and played back, excellent audio.


Xbox is a good games console, ps3 is so much more and in my eyes better value for money.


Plus GTA4 runs best on PS3.

Nice post although I reckon it's not entirely without a discussion

HD movie playback via industry standard blu-ray format.
Absolutely true and a big plus since HD-DVDs demise, although the growing Live online library of downloads may begin to counter this for casual film fans eventually, it will depend on the cost and quality of the content MS sign up I suspect.

HD gaming
True, although the 360 does the same (Wii doesn't though it has to be said). Granted I don't think there are any 360 games in 1080p format, I think they're all 720p (maybe 1080i?). The 360 supports 1080p for media though.

free online,
360 has limited free online, although given Live gold can be picked up for £25 per year I don't think it's a massive deal on the scale of the PS3 hardware and games costs. Fair point if you're on a budget though.

user upgradeable hard drive
You can upgrade the 360 drive as well, either by buying the horribly expensive 360 official 120mb drive or do it yourself with a cheap SATA drive. MS have made it difficult though so you can still only go to 120mb internally (although you can add an externall USB drive of any size). 1 up for the PS3 there I think

excellent DVD upscaler
Good point, I think the 360 also upscales although the internal DVD drive is a noisey as hell when it's spinning - time for a bargin priced end of line £30 360 HD-DVD drive maybe

movies and music can be added to the HDD and played back
Ditto, The extra HDD space can in some ways be negated by the 360 media connect to a PC/Media Centre/external HDD/iPod, although agreed, having a 500GB internal drive is a better option.

Audio
You're dead right here, limiting the 360 to DTS or WMA-Pro at most was a mistake. I think coming to market that little bit early for the 360 left them caught on the hop with some of the HiDef stuff...

For me I have the HD TV, but also a PC and Sky HD so the 360 is spot on using the Media Centre interface for getting music/films and audio to the big screen & amp. The larger catalogue of games and (so far) better online experience makes it the right thing for me (and I'm only speaking for me) so far.

If you don't have a PC or Sky then the coming PVR and media capabilities for the PS3 could make it ideal as a single box solution that cover most bases.

I still don't think the 360 can be written off on the media front, perhaps with the exception of BluRay which, if you're going down that route, makes a PS3 a no brainer.

All in all I tend to think they're fairly evenly matched, which can only be a good thing for consumers in the long run

As for GTA4... we'll see, some reports suggest the PS3 is a little sharper witht he 360 having better colours. The exclsuive 360 online content could be important in the long run.

 

[Kreeeee]

Shush you ......

That was then buddy ..... you need to get one now!!! MGS4, MGO and the best running version of GTA4 and resistence 2 coming soon.

Get in there.

The difference in GTA4 is so small its negligible and the DLC is much more important than gaining slightly sharper shadows and washed out colours.

GT5P is nothing worth shouting about and resistance 1 was bland and generic but I do want the new MGS and I miss super stardust.