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512MB ATI HD 4870 ve 1GB GeForce 9800 GX2 Crysis Tests

ATI used to always have better cards till the 8800 ?, you sure on that.

And you have a short memory, ATI drivers used to suck, every review over the years showed Detonators then Forcewares were better esp in OpenGL.

I aint making excuses, Nvidia are lamers for being lazy since 8800 launched but ATI are no angels and the CCC does suck.

1 of them seems to be more into pumping out Hardware, the other Software, 1 is not much good without the other.
 
9700, 9800, x8, x1900 need i say more on the better cards. Think that covers used to and as for the driver team don't know many from those generation of cards that would say nvidia had the better drivers. Turn aa on with all those cards and they looked better than nv and ran faster apart from the 7950 gx2 which most people hated anyway.
 
Thats your opinion, dont buy Nvidia, stick to your ATI card and leave AA off to get good FPS. ;)

X800/850 launched too late with DX9B/P.S 2.0) IMO, many said ohh we dont need DX9C/PS 3.0 same as they say ohh we dont need DX10/P.S 4.0

April 2004 Nvidia launched the 6800Ultra (far better IMO than the later launched X800/850, may have been a few FPS slower as it was a DX9C/P.S 3.0 card v a DX9B/P.S 2.0 card.

DX9C came in the summer as a standalone download and later for all in SP1.

Nvidia have also made a boob going from old architecture to new architecture, with the FX5000 range of POS's, hense ATI got ahead as they did a Intel P4 job and simply keep old architecture and pumped up the Core MHZ.
 
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TheRealDeal said:
9700, 9800, x8, x1900 need i say more on the better cards. Think that covers used to and as for the driver team don't know many from those generation of cards that would say nvidia had the better drivers. Turn aa on with all those cards and they looked better than nv and ran faster apart from the 7950 gx2 which most people hated anyway.
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ATI's last truly spankingly great card was the X1900 XTX, which was imo better all-round than the 7800/7900 series with or without AA enabled.

It all started to go downhill with the 2900 series. Shame.
 
I don't leave aa off even with my 3870 and can still play any game bar crysis pretty easy. Not against nvidia either just never had the 180 to get a 8800gt when i got my 3870 as that was when gt was out of stock most places and priced very high. Usually play eve online and cod 4 and both run fine at 1600x1200 with aa on and average frames in eve are 90 fps and cod 4 well over 60 if thats not good enough for you at high graphics settings then fair enough.
 
Problem is the performance of the 3870 varies greatly from game to game, whereas the 8800 series are much more consistent performers. You can't use two examples of games known to run well on all cards as proof of the 3870 being a good performer with AA. It's not compared to the 8800's.
 
Not like they are the only 2 games i have played on this card just 2 as an example. No games have given me a problem yet with this card so i can't complain had it since the day it was released. The 8800gt kicks its butt on fps but if my average fps is decent and minimum is decent at 1600x1200 i don't care whats in my machine as the gaming experience is still the same at the end of the day. Have not tryed crysis on it yet though as played it on my mates 8800gtx seemed pretty smooth on high settings but knew it was struggling so knew 3870 would ruin it on high lol.
 
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Heres to hoping ATi have learnt their lesson regarding hardware AA performance and that those benchies have a foundation in reality ... but its all pie in the sky right now.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I don't leave aa off even with my 3870 and can still play any game bar crysis pretty easy. Not against nvidia either just never had the 180 to get a 8800gt when i got my 3870 as that was when gt was out of stock most places and priced very high. Usually play eve online and cod 4 and both run fine at 1600x1200 with aa on and average frames in eve are 90 fps and cod 4 well over 60 if thats not good enough for you at high graphics settings then fair enough.
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Exactly - Bioshock at 1600x1200 with aa with 60+ frames also.

So people that say , to use 'ati - play with no aa' are talking nonsense.

I can even play some of the very latest games at 1900 with aa but I prefer 1600 on my monitor. :cool:
 
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Everyone should want this card to be good, whether you're biased or not.

I really hope it actually moves the market forward at long last.
 
p4radox said:
Everyone should want this card to be good, whether you're biased or not.

I really hope it actually moves the market forward at long last.
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I do feel that some people just want even more longevity out of their ancient 8 series cards... I am pretty sure that the 4800 series will match or beat the 9800 GX2 - there's not a lot to suggest they won't.
 
Lightnix said:
I do feel that some people just want even more longevity out of their ancient 8 series cards... I am pretty sure that the 4800 series will match or beat the 9800 GX2 - there's not a lot to suggest they won't.
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If they won't I think people will end up fire bombing ATI and NV!

Seriously, I want more performance and I want it now. I have the money for a new card sitting there, and I want to order it - but hold up wait a minute there is a problem. Oh yeah. They still haven't improved on 1 and a half year old tech :eek:
 
Lightnix said:
I do feel that some people just want even more longevity out of their ancient 8 series cards... I am pretty sure that the 4800 series will match or beat the 9800 GX2 - there's not a lot to suggest they won't.
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Woot long live my 320 :p,if the ati single gpu is faster then the 9800gx2 i get one.
 
mh if one 4870x2 has 2 gig of memory so two has 4 gig of memory thats a lot amount of memory for the graphics i say :eek:
 
wikipedia.org said:
Far Cry 2 is an upcoming first person shooter published by Ubisoft and is the sequel to Far Cry. Crytek, developers of the original game, are not involved in the development of Far Cry 2. The PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions were announced on January 3, 2008, and will ship simultaneously with the PC version
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry_2
 
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