Arguing over peoples personal opinions of word meanings?
BioShock for PS3
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Arguing over peoples personal opinions of word meanings?
Well Shamikebab said at least that it's just how he chooses to categorise platforms, but if you're saying it's some fact that all gamers should know then I'd really like to see a source.
If you gamed on all formats for quite a while you'd know. Even around '95 and '96 certain games that were on PC were still exclusive.
I'm still waiting for some sort of source for this fact, since you lay it out as something all 'gamers' should know.
I've played games on various platforms since I was about four and never heard of this sort of arbitrary exclusion of platforms from competition until last night on these very forums. So, until I see a source, I'm just going to have to rule out your argument as a "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Sorry.
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See how me and Ulfhedjinn were discussing, that was a proper discussion. You just come in blasting around unfounded statements, looking for a response. Saying that 99% of the time pc games are better is pure speculation, many people would disagree with that. Some games are better on PC, some are better on console. No-one is dismissing pc gaming, merely saying it is not in direct competition with 360 and PS3. I am saying it is indirectly in competition. Christ, for some reason you all seem to have got it into your head that I'm saying PC gaming is lesser or something, I'm a pc gamer myself!
And as an aside, could you please structure your posts better, you seem to just go onto a new line at random points, its a pain to read.
Bleh, too hungover to decipher thestigs post so i'm just gonna leave all that alone.
If there are many people like me in the gaming market then i think that PC releases hold a rather large sway over the console market, particularly the 360. My reasoning for this is that the majority of decent 360 'exclusives' come out on the PC sooner or later (bioshock, mass effect, halo, Gears of war etc etc), so i see no point in owning a 360 at the moment as my PC does the job better (generally). Ninja Gaiden 2 might change this viewpoint however.
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If there are many people like me in the gaming market then i think that PC releases hold a rather large sway over the console market, particularly the 360. My reasoning for this is that the majority of decent 360 'exclusives' come out on the PC sooner or later (bioshock, mass effect, halo, Gears of war etc etc), so i see no point in owning a 360 at the moment as my PC does the job better (generally). Ninja Gaiden 2 might change this viewpoint however.
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99% is my opinion do you need to state imo after every post in here or something i did not state it as a fact its my opinion
its an opinion i have challenge it if you want i dont care just dont call me a troll cause you dont agree ok
it looks to me like some are dismissing pc games for some reason
i was not speaking directly to you or quoting you so why are you assuming it was aimed at you i seeked no response
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lol, Never mind 
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Quite simple, you could look on the top of some Xbox cases, you could look in magazines from the Playstation era.
Sorry if not everything revolves around your precious PC gaming market. It must hurt does it?
That's funny because games like Bioshock don't have "only on Xbox 360" at the top of their box. It's only on games like Gears Of War where the game has been ported much later, and obviously does not apply once it has.
Do they even keep printing the "only on Xbox 360" stamp once such a port has been made?
Edit: I just found this picture of the GOW box on a competitor website, where is the exclusive stamp?
As for gaming magazines, I don't read them. But I'm sure you can't be bothered to provide me with some scans where they say a game is an exclusive even when it's on another platform.
For shame Nokkon, for shame. I ask you to back up your "fact" twice and you fail, so you have to resort to calling me a PC fanboy? Not noticed that I also defended the Wii when it was excluded from competition?
I don't expect it to be common knowledge either but I have, and love playing on, the Xbox 360.
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No one is excluding anything. Wii and PC get version of the game, But it's just always been a rule of thumb, That when a game is release on one console and not the other, It's been named an exclusive for that console.
And I am saying this "rule" makes no sense whatsoever, an exclusive is an exclusive.
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If you're admitting that this "rule" makes no sense then why defend it?It doesn't have to make sense for it to be a "rule" in action
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If you're admitting that this "rule" makes no sense then why defend it?
lol, I wasn't aware this was a matter for defence. I thought you weren't understanding the fact it was so.
It is so, It may not make complete sense to count the PC out, But it's fully understood. That an exclusive on 360, Just means it's not on PS3.
And just so you know, As far as I'm aware, the same isn't said for Wii, If something comes to Wii and PS3, It's not considered a PS3 exclusive.
I said Xbox, not Xbox360.
I don't have magazines from over 10 years ago amazingly.
It's not news to anyone in here you're a PC fanboy. You come into threads here all the time and do nothing but trash them. Console games have never been in competition with PC games, never, not now, not then. My point is that even way back when games on PC and one format were called exclusive, I know this from knowing the market, reading magazines and basically knowing my stuff. If you don't want to believe me, your call. But I'm right.
I know you have a 360.
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Bioshock+360+exclusive&meta=
People in the industry > People that think they know it all in this thread..
People in the industry > People that think they know it all in this thread..
It's both really. I've never heard of this "rule" since last night when it was posted in this thread and I don't understand how it's relevant or how it makes any sort of sense, now I am also wondering why people feel like they have to defend a senseless rule.
See, that makes perfect sense to me and I call such a game a "console exclusive". Console exclusives are what made the decision for me between buying an Xbox 360 and a Playstation 3.
If "console exclusive" is what NokkonWud has meant all this time then why did he not just say so instead of being adamant that the PC platform doesn't compete, and likewise to the guy who said that the Wii doesn't compete. It just blows my mind.
I've been trashing the Wii instead of defending its status as competition?
Just because I prefer gaming on the PC does not mean I have any sort of negativity toward consoles, Nokkon. You've got me wrong.I'd love to ask them personally if they mean "exclusive, period" or "console exclusive."
I mean, it's quite obvious to me what they mean.
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