Cars with Keyless Entry

Rilot said:
No pics on my PC at the moment.
Prefer it to what? The A8?

In terms of the drive and general feel, no. The A8 is nicer.
In terms of the reliability and general service quality from Lexus. It's miles and miles ahead of any of the German brands. The service from Lexus is unbeliveably good. The German brands should really be ashamed of themselves letting Toyota upstage them.
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Do you have the 450h?....a lot more fat cats in the city are being chauffered around in these. I think they look spot on.
 
thepharcyde said:
Do you have the 450h?....a lot more fat cats in the city are being chauffered around in these. I think they look spot on.
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No, I don't belive in Hybrids. I have the GS430 (Which looks the same) with the nice 4.3L V8 rather than the 3.5L V6 and rechargeable batteries. I ride my bike when I want fuel economy.

The most annoying thing about keyless entry and go is that when I drive a car without it, I always end up sitting in the driver's seat and going "Hmmm, key. Damn, in pocket" and having to get out again :P
 
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Rilot said:
The system is works perfectly well and there is no doubt whether the car is locked or not. I've had it on my Audi A8 and now on my Lexus GS. Your milage may very though as I've only used the systems on these cars.

This is how it works:

Walk up to car and touch the door handle, it unlocks the car.
Sit down, press starter button
Drive
Press stop button
Get out of car
Press button on door handle, car locks.

How you can not know whether the car is locked or unlocked is utterly beyond me. I guess those complaining have never really had a car with that feature before.
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Bingo. It's a nice feature.
 
[TW]Fox;11871621 said:
If you have to press a button on the door handle doesn't this rather defeat the object of the system?
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No? You don't need to get the key out of your pocket or anything.
 
OllyM said:
No? You don't need to get the key out of your pocket or anything.
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But if you've just that second stepped out of the car the car the key won't be in your pocket becuase you've just pulled it from the ignition?

You've got to press a button either way so why is pressing a button on the handle so much better than one on the keyfob thats already in your hand as you reach towards your pocket to place the key inside it?
 
If a car has keyless entry it'll also have keyless start so the key will still be in your pocket.
 
Point still stands - reach into pocket, press button, reach out to handle, press button, can't see it making an awful lot of difference really.

BMW keyless entry still requires the key to be in the slot before the start button will work anyway, so no it wont be in your pocket
 
On most cars you don't need to put the key in the ignition or anything. At least that's how VW's implementation of the system works.

Surely Comfort Access on BMW's lets you start the car leaving the key in your pocket? If not that's a pretty huge oversight.
 
[TW]Fox;11871688 said:
Point still stands - reach into pocket, press button, reach out to handle, press button, can't see it making an awful lot of difference really.

BMW keyless entry still requires the key to be in the slot before the start button will work anyway, so no it wont be in your pocket
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Actually I think thats wrong Fox..

I read in the manual of my R56 that you don't even have to put the key in, as long as it's in the cockpit, you don't even have to insert it..
 
So in cars with keyless entry and keyless start, does that mean someone else could get in the car and drive off if you're standing nearby with the fob? Or does the fob have to be in the drivers seat to start the engine?
 
DannyDan said:
So in cars with keyless entry and keyless start, does that mean someone else could get in the car and drive off if you're standing nearby with the fob? Or does the fob have to be in the drivers seat to start the engine?
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Theres sensors in the car, afaik if the fobs not inside the car it wont start.
 
[TW]Fox;11871688 said:
Point still stands - reach into pocket, press button, reach out to handle, press button, can't see it making an awful lot of difference really.

BMW keyless entry still requires the key to be in the slot before the start button will work anyway, so no it wont be in your pocket
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Different on the A8. The fob never leaves your pocket, nor do you have to reach in and press any buttons on the fob. You don't need to press anything on the door handles, the sensors under them unlock when you are in radius. Once in the car, you press the start button, your finger is recognised and your seat, lighting, air con, blinds, parking system, radio etc settings are all ready for you and not your partner. Car starts and off you go.
 
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West said:
Actually I think thats wrong Fox..
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I had a 2007 BMW 320i M Sport for 2 days with Comfort Access. It auto locked the car as you walked away, but wouldn't allow the car to start unless the card was clicked into place under the Start button. It wouldnt even turn the instrument panel on.
 
[TW]Fox;11871793 said:
I had a 2007 BMW 320i M Sport for 2 days with Comfort Access. It auto locked the car as you walked away, but wouldn't allow the car to start unless the card was clicked into place under the Start button. It wouldnt even turn the instrument panel on.
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Must be different on the Mini.. because I remember reading it..
 
MrLOL said:
Whilst looking around for a new car, ive been supprised as to how many cars dont have this.
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This kinda stuff, "value added extras", or something along those lines give a wow factor to a lot of people especially start/power buttons. Some are actually pretty damn useful like Ford's quickclear windscreens and capless fuel system. Keyless entry? I'd be unsure about however, dont like the idea of going near my car and it unlocking, even though there are measures in the system such as not allowing the car to lock if the keys are in the car.
 
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