Tanker drivers strike rant

[TW]Fox;11883137 said:
They have had NO payrise, not even in line with inflation, since 1992.

How is that fair?

This is why. And, to be honest, despite how much the pay is, very few people fancy constantly driving a large vehicle requiring a fair amount of training and qualifications (initial outlay) for 50+ hours a week, often having to sit in horrible traffic and sleep in their cabins.

Supply and demand for labour and value of certain types of work? Nothing new. C'est la vie.

Edit: And just to comment, no job is 'worthless', as obviously it needs to be done (or why would someone be throwing away money for it to happen.)
 
What options are they left with? No one wants to strike, but sometimes it's the only option.

No problem with them striking, and I think they should get a payrise - it seems to me they've been treated very shabbily by the company they were outsourced to.

What I am against is blockading the oil refineries. The dispute is between the union and the outsourcing company - why should they be able to hold the country to ransom like this? I guess the current uncertainty about oil has something to do with this action, or they would have gone on strike a lot sooner than now.
 
What I am against is blockading the oil refineries. The dispute is between the union and the outsourcing company - why should they be able to hold the country to ransom like this? .

The more damaged caused the better the strike is.
Otherwise they would just hire contractor and the strike would be pointless.
 
No problem with them striking, and I think they should get a payrise - it seems to me they've been treated very shabbily by the company they were outsourced to.

What I am against is blockading the oil refineries. The dispute is between the union and the outsourcing company - why should they be able to hold the country to ransom like this? I guess the current uncertainty about oil has something to do with this action, or they would have gone on strike a lot sooner than now.

why dont they block them in protest for lower fuel prices..... :confused:

you can see the effect its having! everyone is going mental
 
OP jumping the gun.

It might be advisable to look at the work they actually do rather than just think they drive trucks.

Do you know their working conditions, their shifts etc? As far as Im concerned if I was a lorry driver working with the conidtions they do then I would want a larger than normal pay packet as well.

It is NOT an easy job driving tons of oil around Britains roads.

Oh and about striking. UNISON is a strike a minute union. They love a good walkout, where they can blockade the town hall and heckle passers by.
 
Neither is my job "easy" and I less than get half what theyre being offered.
Thats all im trying to say. Its not fair.

You don't have to suffer Britain's traffic for 50+ hours a week, you get to sleep at home, you don't have to be mind numbingly bored driving 50+ hours a week. Just a list of some things I know I regard as a reason for their pay.

Would I also be wrong to assume you do not have to accompany the child when he is not at school?

Edit: Just to make it clear, I'm not having a go. Simply trying to show you the reasoning behind the difference between yours and theirs' pay.
 
Quite simply, public sector is much more cushy. The benefits are outrageous in comparison. how much would a truck driver take in pay so they could get flexi....
 
Would I also be wrong to assume you do not have to accompany the child when he is not at school?

No I am at home with him when he doesnt go to school because he cant manage a full time table. Then we have other appointments and things to do.

Im a 28 year old repeating secondary school, sometimes my job is mind numbingly boring too, and depressing.
 
Neither is my job "easy" and I less than get half what theyre being offered.
Thats all im trying to say. Its not fair.

Its perfectly fair.

You could leave your job and work doing a similar thing for a private company. Odds are, you'd get paid more.

Its your choice.

Some jobs are worth less than others, deal with it.
 
You don't have to suffer Britain's traffic for 50+ hours a week, you get to sleep at home, you don't have to be mind numbingly bored driving 50+ hours a week. Just a list of some things I know I regard as a reason for their pay.

Would I also be wrong to assume you do not have to accompany the child when he is not at school?

Not just that..consider driving a vehicle so fully loaded with oil that one crash could cause massive damage, not jsut to property but also human lives. TBH Id much rather work in the office rather than having to be alert driving on the motorways for 48hrs a week!
 
No I am at home with him when he doesnt go to school because he cant manage a full time table. Then we have other appointments and things to do.

Im a 28 year old repeating secondary school, sometimes my job is mind numbingly boring too, and depressing.

I meant more sort of school holidays, etc.

The drivers also have the burden of deliveries needing to be on time etc. And just think about the consequences of all the drivers in the country not doing their jobs, to all the carers (?) not doing theirs.
 
Quite simply, public sector is much more cushy. The benefits are outrageous in comparison. how much would a truck driver take in pay so they could get flexi....

I only wish I got flexi time, I work 40 hours a week, every week for 46 weeks of the year. I cant take time off work during term time because then he couldnt go to school.

I also havent had a lunch hour for 10 years because there is no one else to take care of the child I look after when I eat my lunch. He sits there listening to a tape while I get maybe 15 minutes to eat (due to the time we leave school and have to be back for the afternoon)
 
Its perfectly fair.

You could leave your job and work doing a similar thing for a private company. Odds are, you'd get paid more.

Its your choice.

Some jobs are worth less than others, deal with it.

'Tis a sad reflection on our society when people who look after other people less fortunate than themselves are "worth less" than people who supply fuel :(
 
I only wish I got flexi time, I work 40 hours a week, every week for 46 weeks of the year. I cant take time off work during term time because then he couldnt go to school.

I also havent had a lunch hour for 10 years because there is no one else to take care of the child I look after when I eat my lunch. He sits there listening to a tape while I get maybe 15 minutes to eat (due to the time we leave school and have to be back for the afternoon)

Ok, but that is YOUR choice to do that. No one forced you into your working conditions. You cose as you thought it was obviously reasonable.

Now you obviously dont think is, so what are you going to do about it? Maon about OTHER peoples jobs?
 
I meant more sort of school holidays, etc.

Nope, I work school holidays. Its just not practical for me to be away as theres no one else to take care of him. I get 6 weeks holiday spread over the course of the year which I have to take in the school holidays.
 
Neither is my job "easy" and I less than get half what theyre being offered.
Thats all im trying to say. Its not fair.

Your job is not as economically important to the UK. If they stop doing their job the country comes to a halt. You stop doing your job and a disabled kid doesn't go to school.
 
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