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Nvidia GTX 280 - IN STOCK NOW!!!

darkoroje said:
Unfortunately, due to inflation and huge increases in prices of energy and food, £500 is less than it used to be. In fact, in real terms, the prices of technology goods have been coming down for a long time.
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No, the prices of top-end GPU's are increasing... not coming down.
 
Thats Nvidia off my christmas card list. For the first time since my 9600xt im gonna go Ati. Glad i bought an X38 Motherboard now. Might even have a go of all that 2 card nonsense. :D
 
drunkenmaster said:
Why do people insist Crysis is badly coded. Its an incredibly detailed game looking better than anything by a distance, and as such it runs at a slower fps than other games that don't look as good, thats no different to every other game. People, some specifically, got caught up in the whole "optimised for quad core" crap the guys behind it said in the hype to release. Every single game maker hypes up ANY feature the game can use no matter if it needs it or not. IT will infact use all cores, most games can be load-spread across all cores now, this is all you need to claim that its optimised for quad cores by running a few different threads. Anything you buy has people overhype everything it can do. Games like Crysis don't, and wouldn't use 100% cpu load on all 4 cores, why would it need to, it doesn't make it badly optimised, it would be badly optimised if it did use 100% of all 4 cores.

Saying all that, its not the best game ever, but frankly who cares either way. How many people play a game and play it over and over and over until the next hardest on hardware game comes around. We've mostly all played it, and won't play it again so soon so its irrelevant.

Its a more powerful card no doubt, but very very few people will see any of that new power. If you get 80fps in a game with a 9800gtx, and this gets 125fps, or 300fps, your game experience is unlikely to change in the slightest. However despite all that, do expect in the next year, maybe 18 months, that PC gaming will make fairly large strides forward. Consoles get released, become the focal point and PC's get a lot of ports with little extra in the way of options so not much power needed. But after 18months, to 2 years, game dev's start to shift back towards PC's as the graphical hardware shifts significantly in the PC favour. But why waste £500 now, when you can buy the same card if you want, in 6 months for half the price(maybe less depending on sales and 55nm shift) when the games that need it start to appear.


If anyone had any balls, they would COMPLETELY boycot the high end Nvidia cards, only buy ATi £150-250 cards and watch as game dev's hopefully ditch their TWIMTBP program, which would almost certainly see a significant drop in Nvidia's lead in performance, which would hopefully cause them to move to a new architechture and compete with ATi on price and tech, over paying off dev's.

I just can't stand Nvidia's business practice anymore, pay off dev's to optimise for them, price fixing, overcharging, lots of bullpap PR stunts, this latest crap of "cpu isn't important, Intel are scared, we're taking over" i mean, wtf. Half of their business practice seems to me, to reek of anti-competition law breaking attempts to keep ATi down.
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Extremely good post. NV are seriously on some sort of massive ego trip, how do they expect to pull in more customers to buy their high end when they're basically treating us like fools? Most people with sense aren't going to buy these new GT200s, well the GTX280 atleast, yet NV appear to be so aragant that they will sell based on the popularity of the previous 8800s. The majority of noobs who know nothing and buy what they perceive to be the best/fastest (the numbers game comes into play here) generally don't have the budget to buy cards priced at £400-450. I think they've well and truly shot themselves in the foot by bringing the GT200s out with their obvious problems of poor yields, poor power consumption, expensive production costs and extortionate prices. Because of NV's attitude, I think they're gonna end up losing out. They've almost definitely been blocked from making a chipset for nehalem CPUs due to them being so possessive over SLi, they've smacktalked almost everyone and now they're stuck with GT200 while ATi, according to the rumors, have got a nice little chip ready to come out, while not having as much 'raw' (read brute force) power, they're more technologically advanced, they will cost less for both single cards and crossfire/dual GPU card, and perform much better when combined. This is the reason I will not be buying NV for a long time, if ever again. If people did actually boycott NV, then they really wouldn't have any other choice but to wise up and play fairly, however, I can't see there ever being a mass NV boycott so I suppose the best we'll get is ATi beating them in every sector.
 
holy poo poo thats exxxxxxxxxxxxxpensive (does it give sexual favours aswell). Going to see what ATI have to offer 4870x2 is hopefully going to be a stonker
 
I was expecting something in the region of £380 for the GTX 280....I'm frankly speechless.

Definitely waiting to see what ATi has to offer.
 
Richdog said:
No, the prices of top-end GPUs are increasing... not coming down.
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Along with inflation, the cards are also increasing in price too, so £500 now isn't as much as it was say 4-5 years ago (I bought my 9800XT shortly after release for £240, and 5900 Ultras were not much more). So while inflation is decreasing the overall value of the pound, graphics cards are increasing in price steadily, so technically the cards are getting extremely expensive. I've been noticing over this year alone, how the cost of living has risen quite a bit. I'm only 18, and while I earn £1000 after tax each month, I'm finding money is 'stretching' less and less to the point where £500 a month is going on things that I can't even remember, or, the cost of living.
 
I think the problem is mainly people have way too many other things to spend that sort of money on now and for that reason i think most of these initial cards will still be in the warehouse when the price discount comes.
 
Gerard said:
£470, bahahaha. Typical nvidia pricing strategy, be even funnier once the overclocked by 25mhz versions come with a £500+ plus price tag.
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Naa, typicial UK e-tailers ripping us off and taking advantage of the early adopters, off course there not all this bad, i've found a few sites with pre-overclocked GTX280 for less then the cheapest standard ones here and they have stock. :D
 
Credit crunch + tightening purse strings = not as much cash for frivolous things now.

I can also see the current state of PC gaming, namely the cost of high-end equipment that fuells it, being the death knell for the hobby we love. There's a reason that Crytek are stopping their PC exclusives... the PC simply isn't a profitable business any more, it's becoming more and more niche as technology improves and requirements increase, and unless they bring it back to the mainstream with high end performance for sensible prices then the future looks very, very bleak for us imo.
 
kylew said:
Along with inflation, the cards are also increasing in price too, so £500 now isn't as much as it was say 4-5 years ago (I bought my 9800XT shortly after release for £240, and 5900 Ultras were not much more). So while inflation is decreasing the overall value of the pound, graphics cards are increasing in price steadily, so technically the cards are getting extremely expensive. I've been noticing over this year alone, how the cost of living has risen quite a bit. I'm only 18, and while I earn £1000 after tax each month, I'm finding money is 'stretching' less and less to the point where £500 a month is going on things that I can't even remember, or, the cost of living.
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Youve misunderstood what inflation is. Are penny sweets any more expensive than before even though they are not worth pennies?
 
Richdog said:
No, the prices of top-end GPU's are increasing... not coming down.
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I bought my 8800GTX on release from Overclockers, it was about £440. That was about 18 months ago, the price of GT 280 is £469, which is actually cheaper (in real-terms) than 8800GTX was. Not to mention that the GT 280 can be bought elsewhere for £400.

This card is, in technical terms, quite a achievement, and is significantly faster than previous generation. The price is in line with previous generation top-end card when that was released. It is unrealistic to expect top-end performance at lower prices, the research costs are higher than ever, the drivers are more complex than ever.
 
"This card is, in technical terms, quite a achievement" How exactly it still doesn't have DX10.1 which Ati cards have had for a while. As i understood what i have read Ati cards are more technologically advanced but Nvidia has the brute force crown or is that wrong ?.
 
RizlaKing said:
"This card is, in technical terms, quite a achievement" How exactly it still doesn't have DX10.1 which Ati cards have had for a while. As i understood what i have read Ati cards are more technologically advanced but Nvidia has the brute force crown or is that wrong ?.
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With 800 shaders, id say that its AMD with the brute force approach. Then again if you see it as 160 shaders then you can make the opposite argument. Performance and wattage is all that matters.
 
darkoroje said:
I bought my 8800GTX on release from Overclockers, it was about £440. That was about 18 months ago, the price of GT 280 is £469, which is actually cheaper (in real-terms) than 8800GTX was. Not to mention that the GT 280 can be bought elsewhere for £400.

This card is, in technical terms, quite a achievement, and is significantly faster than previous generation. The price is in line with previous generation top-end card when that was released. It is unrealistic to expect top-end performance at lower prices, the research costs are higher than ever, the drivers are more complex than ever.
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It's slower than the 9800GX2 unlike the 8800GTX which crushed everything in its path.
 
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