David Icke on James Whale Radio

Inquisitor · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:00

Tefal said:
and now haven't said what happens in 2012 either.

Something to do with the Maya calendar coming to an end in 2012. According to conspiracists, there'll be some kind of apocalypse or something.

According to 99% of scholars who know anything about Maya civilisation this is a load of rubbish:

Someone who knows infinitely more about Maya civilisation than magick or any other conspiracist said:
"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

University of Florida anthropologist Susan Gillespie says the 2012 phenomenon comes "from media and from other people making use of the Maya past to fulfill agendas that are really their own."

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-27-maya-2012_n.htm

I'll spare magick his reply and concede that this is all government propaganda

Tefal · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:00

magick said:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay...=2012+ian+xel&ei=kGhZSPfiLpKuiwL6vqz-Bg&hl=en
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232&q=2012 ian xel&hl=en

yeah I'm not spending 90+ minutes watching that how about a summary.

And what are you going to do if 2012 just passes like everyother year?

magick · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:02

housemaster said:
Long live the Lizzards I say, can't wait to be introduced to one.

Photograph of a reptillian and I'd say a genuine one.

Snakedoctor · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:03

I think shelf Stalkers will be roaming The Zone in 2012.

Snakedoctor · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:04

magick said:
Photograph of a reptillian and I'd say a genuine one.

Images of what apears to be a falice.

Looks like a ***** to me.

Tefal · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:04

magick said:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay...=2012+ian+xel&ei=kGhZSPfiLpKuiwL6vqz-Bg&hl=en
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232&q=2012 ian xel&hl=en

Inquisitor said:
Something to do with the Maya calendar coming to an end in 2012. According to conspiracists, there'll be some kind of apocalypse or something.

According to 99% of scholars who know anything about Maya civilisation this is a load of rubbish:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-27-maya-2012_n.htm

Basically it's a load of rubbish (no surprises there)

Yeah figured as much, i never get how they keep saying these things (there was that whole false flag thread) and every time they don't happen they just say it was moved back etc, not think hmm maybe it was a pile of carp.

Also How is it there can be such a massive and powerful organisation as to pull of 9/11 etc and all the others, but they just let these people post thier full detailed plan on the internet?

Surely if they existed they would either be people like ickle making it so absurd as to make it dissmisable,( i can see this coming back to bite me), or the people with the "truth" would just have a !car acident! and that video never gets posted.

Tefal · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:06

Snakedoctor said:
Looks like a ***** to me.

I think my ex had one like that

I'm sorry but thats it this has to be a prank like the pokmon site, Posting a giant penis is just too far for this.

magick · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:06

Inquisitor said:
Something to do with the Maya calendar coming to an end in 2012. According to conspiracists, there'll be some kind of apocalypse or something.

There will not be an apocalypse. There will be an acceleration in consciousness and there will be massive social changes as many of our current govermental power structures, institutions and corporations survival relies on the masses existing at a low level of consciousness. As peoples consciousness beings to raise they will not continue to accept the way of life imposed on them by the state.

Inquisitor · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:09

magick said:
There will not be an apocalypse. There will be an acceleration in consciousness and there will be massive social changes as many of our current govermental power structures, institutions and corporations survival relies on the masses existing at a low level of consciousness. As peoples consciousness beings to raise they will not continue to accept the way of life imposed on them by the state.

Out of genuine curiosity (I'm not trying to be provocative here), where does this idea come from? Is it your own?

semi-pro waster · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:10

magick said:
Photograph of a reptillian and I'd say a genuine one.

http://ufocasebook.com/show/alienglow1.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://www.abduct.com/research/_respix/r17.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]

I'll admit that I'm just being picky but they are from different sources it would appear (hotlinking is bad remember) and in the first you've got what looks like something on fire, in the second you've got a gray fuzzy mass that could be the first one with filtering applied. Going to take rather more to convince me I'm afraid and if reptiles looked like that you'd think more people would have noticed, it isn't as if a flaming lizard is particuarly inconspicuous.

Snakedoctor · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:10

Tefal said:
I think my ex had one like that

I'm sorry but thats it this has to be a prank like the pokmon site, Posting a giant penis is just too far for this.

Tears of laughter at this thread.

Tefal · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:10

magick said:
There will not be an apocalypse. There will be an acceleration in consciousness and there will be massive social changes as many of our current govermental power structures, institutions and corporations survival relies on the masses existing at a low level of consciousness. As peoples consciousness beings to raise they will not continue to accept the way of life imposed on them by the state.

let me guess this will take many many years so if we don't see it right away it's not that you and the giant *****'s of doom where wrong?

What are the large scaled penises plans for man? anything in particular or do they just think of us as a sim city game?.

Snakedoctor · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:12

Lol "dildos of doom".

Snakedoctor · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:14

Just show the Snakedoctor those Lizards, I'll sort em.

Azza · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:14

Ermmm thats no *****, thats a chick...

We are ruled by hot chicks!!!

HELL YEAH!!!

Richdog · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:14

magick said:
There will not be an apocalypse. There will be an acceleration in consciousness and there will be massive social changes as many of our current govermental power structures, institutions and corporations survival relies on the masses existing at a low level of consciousness. As peoples consciousness beings to raise they will not continue to accept the way of life imposed on them by the state.

magick please can I ask you a question... what will you do if 2012 and beyond arrives and is is shown conclusively that: a) this doesn't happen b) never was going to happen.

Will you not be the slightest bit peeved that you spend 90% of your waking adult life worrying about something which has no basis in reality? Or will you just go further into denial and come up with more convenient reasoning to explain it all away?

Housey · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:17

magick said:
Photograph of a reptillian and I'd say a genuine one.

Oh of course you would, if you didn't believe it was genuine then you would have little to go on I suggest. My request for an introduction was not for a photograph rather a face to face. Can you facilitate?

Tefal · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:17

housemaster said:
Oh of course you would, if you didn't believe it was genuine then you would have little to go on I suggest. My request for an introduction was not for a photograph rather a face to face. Can you facilitate?

Bring lube.

Snakedoctor · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:19

Richdog said:
magick please can I ask you a question... what will you do if 2012 and beyond arrives and is is shown conclusively that: a) this doesn't happen b) never was going to happen.

Will you not be the slightest bit peeved that you spend 90% of your waking adult life worrying about something which has no basis in reality? Or will you just go further into denial and come up with more convenient reasoning to explain it all away?

Isn't that also the way a Nun would feel when she dies realises and there is no heaven?

magick · 18 Jun 2008 at 21:19

Inquisitor said:
Out of genuine curiosity (I'm not trying to be provocative here), where does this idea come from? Is it your own?

Yes I feel the change happening within me. Don't want to go to much into my past but since 1999-2000 a lot of strange things have happened in my life. I've been through major shifts in awareness and feel my consciousness expanding.

I never really got into the 2012 until about 2 years when I came across it on the net, went on forums ect and found other people were having similar experiences and it seems to be a phenonema that's effecting lots of people. Like there's a big wave or monumental shift coming.

Already, like many others, i'm adjusting myself to this 'wave' by giving up drugs/drink and other superficial pursuits and letting go of old paradigms about the ways in which things should work particularly regarding money, politics and all the other evils we are taught are necesary.

This wave is going to hit more and more people as time goes over the next few years, but it will reach a point I think as time goes on, probably mid 2010 onwards where it'll be harder for those who haven't 'caught the wave' to get on it so to speak. These are the people for whom 2012 may be percieved as cataclysmic or apocalypic.