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Nvidia GTX 280 - IN STOCK NOW!!!

Lightnix said:
Whether or not it scales better, if two 4850's are beating the GTX280 and are significantly cheaper, what is the better setup? If anything else, crap crossfire scaling shows the cards in single configuration should be even faster. Even better. :)
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thats the thing, 2 cards have too much waste, half the ram only available since ram on both cards doesnt add up. then its mobo restrictions, lot of people have board that can only take 1 card, or 1 card at 16x port speed and other at 4x port speed. and multi card setups are hit and miss most of the time, only the real popular AAA games will have half decent multi gpu support.

multi gpu is not the way forwards unless those issues are addressed.
 
willhub said:
:(, maybe in winter its good but in the summer it'll ne phase change to keep cool :o, was a flop on release and took about 8 months to start performing ok that card made me sick It felt like a weight off my back when I binned it.
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Yea lucky we have such crappy summers I guess but it overclocks by about 9% and does the job better then the 256bit newer cards Ive used.
I dont care about the rest of its negatives, Im not fussy but people who pay 500 pounds are dam fussy and will hate a clunky power draining beast like this so no wonder it did badly because the performance didnt justify it either.

Ati wont be that stupid again hopefully
 
here we go, taken from anandtechs latest benches of the gtx 280, iv highlightes the crossfire setup and sli setup. as you can see crossfire does not scale better than sli, far from it. why tomnbk always says that crossfire scales better ill never know. then again we all remember his fiasco with the 2900xt, touting it as the gtx killer card. and he even ended up screwing over poor old willhub into getting the 2900xt. that was uncalled for.

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and there you have it. crossfire cant scale better than sli. its probably not designed to. only this forum says that crossfire scales better than sli. every other forum on the net says otherwise.
and its not just the anandtech benches, look at all other recent benches and you will see the same thing. SLI works better the Crossfire.


but to me , all multi card configs are crap. single card for the win.
 
GeneralD said:
At last, I have been here long enough now to understand the in house jokes :P
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lol!

and just to join in, I do recall in that "official" crysis benchmark thread the 3870x2 whilst having generally decent average and high fps often had very low minimums which was a bit concerning.

No general comment on whats better tbh and custom pc were very scathing of all multi gpu setups but then they were using the latest WHQL drivers not betas or pre releases which meant they were well behind the majority but its a fair point why should you have to use betas?

Anyway, not getting involved in the fanboying, I'm an 8800GTX user and considering sli but I would happily trot over the ATI if the 4850 xfire delivers its promises to tackle a 9800GX2, it just seems a bit unrealistic.
 
id put it down to too much variance in personal testing. my 8600gt is faster than my mates, x1950xtx in benches. but id put it down to my testing the 8600gt on a 3.2ghz q6600 where as mate uses a stock amd x2 3800.
 
First, people buying cards whilst being uninformed is a great example as to why you should take five minutes to thumb through some benchmarks before clicking that 'buy' button. Then again, in your own examples you've managed to show the 9800 GX2 and even the 8800 GT SLi beat the GTX280 on a few benchmarks when both are far cheaper (the 8800 GT SLi setup being half the price of the GTX280...).
 
Cyber-Mav said:
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and there you have it. crossfire cant scale better than sli. its probably not designed to. only this forum says that crossfire scales better than sli. every other forum on the net says otherwise.
and its not just the anandtech benches, look at all other recent benches and you will see the same thing. SLI works better the Crossfire.


but to me , all multi card configs are crap. single card for the win.
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4800 series had significant architecture changes. You can't compare the performance of the old hardware and expect the new gen stuff to act in a similar way. For example the AA in the 4800's is no longer done via the shaders, the stream procs work in a different way

Ever thought ATi don't need to get the fastest single card out?

The mainstream market makes them plenty of cash, high end enthusiast doesn't bring in the most money anyway. Mainstream does. ATi can have the best of both worlds the 4850 a cheap mainstream which can be paired and turned into a high end enthusiast. NVIDIA doesn't have that advantage.

Also reports on how much the GTX280 has cost to make NVIDIA. Put it this way they're not making a lot on that chip. ATi will make as much as them off each 4850's a significantly lower end chip than the 280 ;)
 
Strife212 said:
You are determined to slate this card, every single post i've seen from you does :o

It may be expensive but so was the 8800GTX when it came out.
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but was/ is 8800gtx good not like gt280 and can not see it lasting 18 months but then u will say how did u know 8800gtx would have lasted 18 months .
i did not but it did as it was insane faster then and 7 or 19 series.

and gt280 is not that fast as 9 series even slower.

but then im not to judge anyone who is buying them i will be just laughing how people will be disappointed with them in really short time.

PS: last thing that nvidia did something good is 8800gts 512 mb
 
Cyber-Mav said:
and there you have it. crossfire cant scale better than sli. its probably not designed to. only this forum says that crossfire scales better than sli. every other forum on the net says otherwise.
and its not just the anandtech benches, look at all other recent benches and you will see the same thing. SLI works better the Crossfire.
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Wait a minute. Those are frame rates right? That doesnt prove scaling. If the 8800 GT is a quicker single GPU solution, it make sence for it to also be a quicker dual card solution. Knowone was refuting that SLI set-ups where performing better, the asertion was that they do not ''scale'' better than crossfire.







Look at the percentage gains.

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psychas said:
but was/ is 8800gtx good not like gt280 and can not see it lasting 18 months but then u will say how did u know 8800gtx would have lasted 18 months .
i did not but it did as it was insane faster then and 7 or 19 series.

and gt280 is not that fast as 9 series even slower.

but then im not to judge anyone who is buying them i will be just laughing how people will be disappointed with them in really short time.

PS: last thing that nvidia did something good is 8800gts 512 mb
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Huh? Hardly got a word of that :confused:.

9800GX2 is 2x 8800GTS slapped together working in SLi.
GTX280 is litrally a 9800GX2 slapped together in one core with less SP's.
 
if you want to see percentage gains than crossfire a pair of 8600gt cards. the thing with those percentages is that the final gain is not enough to place it ahead of the card that is priced in the similar price bracket (the 8800gt). if crossfire really did scale better than sli, then the 3870x2 would always be faster than the 8800gt sli setup. but in reality it isnt, since crossfire is not as efficient as the folks on this forum make it out to be. adn i recognise those benchmarks, they are quite old.

thats why i posted benchmarks from a review done just a couple of days ago.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
if you want to see percentage gains than crossfire a pair of 8600gt cards. the thing with those percentages is that the final gain is not enough to place it ahead of the card that is priced in the similar price bracket (the 8800gt). if crossfire really did scale better than sli, then the 3870x2 would always be faster than the 8800gt sli setup. but in reality it isnt, since crossfire is not as efficient as the folks on this forum make it out to be.
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Put a pair of ATi + NV card with similar performance. Crossfire will win.

4850 is similar performance to a 8800GT and guess which dual configuration works out of those two :)
 
Tom|Nbk said:
4800 series had significant architecture changes. You can't compare the performance of the old hardware and expect the new gen stuff to act in a similar way. For example the AA in the 4800's is no longer done via the shaders, the stream procs work in a different way

Ever thought ATi don't need to get the fastest single card out?

The mainstream market makes them plenty of cash, high end enthusiast doesn't bring in the most money anyway. Mainstream does. ATi can have the best of both worlds the 4850 a cheap mainstream which can be paired and turned into a high end enthusiast. NVIDIA doesn't have that advantage.

Also reports on how much the GTX280 has cost to make NVIDIA. Put it this way they're not making a lot on that chip. ATi will make as much as them off each 4850's a significantly lower end chip than the 280 ;)
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you trying to dodge the question? first you say crossfire scales better than sli. now your trying to broom that under the carpet since iv shown a little proof to knock you off your high horse. as for the 48 series, not too long to find out how they stand. I know they will fail, im just waiting to find out by how much. if the 4870 cant beat the gtx 260 then ati may as well go bankrupt.
 
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