6 month ban and £275 fine for woman who killed a motorcyclist

lordrobs · 27 Jun 2008 at 16:45

Wicksta said:
How would throwing this woman into an already overcrowded prison system help? What lesson would she learn, or is it just people want 'revenge' rather than rehabilitation?

She has to live with the fact that she killed someone which I'm sure will affect her for the rest of her life.

Totally agree with Wicksta on this one.

gobbo · 27 Jun 2008 at 17:00

Yet another nail in the coffin for the British Justice system.

Maybe if she was 15, high on drugs, drunk and driving a stolen car she might have gotten away with a slapped wrist!

Mr Joshua · 27 Jun 2008 at 17:16

I agree with Wicksta too but I think a 6 month driving ban is far too short, perhaps 2 years minimum would be more appropriate.

Kitchster_uk · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:03

You are all missing the point. She wasn't speeding so it couldn't have been dangerous. :rolleyes:

Her pusishment for killing a man is £215 and a 6 month ban longer than I got for 81mph on an empty motorway. The current crop of judges and the European rubbish should be burned alive for allowing stuff like this. SHe killed a man, it is time she went to jail.

Biohazard · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:06

Jail tbh.

She should have been more responsible with her hay fever condition.

Jokester · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:09

Mr Jack said:
I think in cases like this one it is legitimate to impose punishment rather than simple rehabilitation. Not for revenge, but because it is important to put out a clear message that people will be held accountable for serious failures in their driving ability.

That pretty much sums it up for me. Driving on the wrong side of the road, whilst not looking and killing someone as a result can surely only be classed as death by dangerous driving. If you had done that whilst overtaking you would be looking at at least 2years in prison.

jamoor · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:16

What's a victim surcharge?

Wicksta · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:17

Kitchster_uk said:
Her pusishment for killing a man is £215 and a 6 month ban longer than I got for 81mph on an empty motorway.

Not quite sure what you mean here? You got less than £215 and a 6 month ban for 81mph on the motorway?

Biohazard · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:19

jamoor said:
What's a victim surcharge?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6431401.stm

Edinho · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:36

Disgusting. Shes not even been told to retake her test ffs! :rolleyes:

More reason why I think retaking the driving test every 5 years should be compulsory imo and get muppets like this off the road, but this country is too bloody stupid to implement something like that.

Kitchster_uk · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:46

Wicksta said:
Not quite sure what you mean here? You got less than £215 and a 6 month ban for 81mph on the motorway?

I got a £60 fine and 3 points for 81mph. She got £275 and 6m ban for killing a man. THis is totally disproportionate as I was 11mph over the limit She KILLED someone. Yet she got a proportionately much eisier punishment.

Freefaller · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:58

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Peter450 · 27 Jun 2008 at 19:59

She never meant to kill anyone, it was an accident that could have happend to anyone

Freefaller · 27 Jun 2008 at 20:03

Peter450 said:
She never meant to kill anyone, it was an accident that could have happend to anyone

No it couldn't have "happened to anyone". Any decent educated driver would know that driving a car/bike/vehicle is a serious business and being lackadaisical with it will kill - end of. You don't get in your car and just drive willy nilly - driving/riding on the road is a MASSIVE responsibility that people often forget. Don't be so naive. Killing someone isn't just "an accident" in this case - it was gross negligence.

Meridian · 27 Jun 2008 at 20:06

Kitchster_uk said:
She got £275 and 6m ban for killing a man.

No she didn't, she got he punishment for Driving Without Due Care and attention. Because someone died the punishment was towards the upper end of the scale rather than lower. But she was not, repeat not, sentenced for killing someone. Will people PLEASE try to understand how British law works.

M

Kitchster_uk · 27 Jun 2008 at 20:11

Meridian said:
N Will people PLEASE try to understand how British law works.

M

We do understand. It doesn't work. I didn't mean to do 81mph, can I gt off with that :rolleyes

Rilot · 27 Jun 2008 at 20:21

I don't think anyone is disputing that the sentace is correct within the law for the offence for which she was charged.
People are complaining that the punishment doesn't fit the severity of the concequences of her crime.

Wicksta · 27 Jun 2008 at 20:26

Rilot said:
I don't think anyone is disputing that the sentace is correct within the law for the offence for which she was charged.
People are complaining that the punishment doesn't fit the severity of the concequences of her crime.

As far as I know there was no crime here at all?

Kitchster_uk · 27 Jun 2008 at 20:30

Wicksta said:
As far as I know there was no crime here at all?

Is reaching for tissues, when you have to take your eyes off the road by deliberately not looking at what you are doing, by moving out of a safe driving position, dangerous?

If so, she has caused death by dangerous driving.

It's not hard.

Wicksta · 27 Jun 2008 at 20:34

Kitchster_uk said:
Is reaching for tissues, when you have to take your eyes off the road by deliberately not looking at what you are doing, by moving out of a safe driving position, dangerous?

If so, she has caused death by dangerous driving.

It's not hard.

Again, you are confusing the literal word 'dangerous' with the specific offense (DD40) of 'dangerous driving'. By your logic every single driving offense would fall under the umbrella of 'dangerous driving'.

I have no idea what your reply has to do with my post anyway - as far as I know there was no crime committed by this woman - she certainly hasn't been charged with a criminal offense.