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4850 What A Stonking Card!!

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After my 1st week with this been playing around with games a little more and cannot believe how bloody fast this thing is:eek:

Assassins Creed @ 1920 x 1200 + Vsync + 4 X AA + Max Gfx ingame=constant 30FPS with no slowdowns I can find whatsoever.

Compare this to running the game @ 1360 x 768 (on a 40" HTV) with exact same graphical settings on an 8800GTX and even though it is a much lower resolution the GTX stutters badly in places and does not offer a smooth gameplay experience FPS wise. When you run through any crowd the GTX slows & stutters badly yet the 4850 is buttery smooth its an amazing difference and the game now feels alive as the controls do not lag either due to no FPS drops. Same for a cityscape view when you pan around the 4850 is very smooth but the GTX cannot handle this unless vsync is disabled it always stutters a little.

Bioshock is another game the 4850 absolutely destroys my 8800GTX in.

Even Gears Of War gets some 4850 love. 1920x1200 +DX10withAA + max gfx & vsync is unplayable on an 8800GTX. The 4850 is not super smooth but a lot of the microstuttering which NV cards seem to have with this is almost gone now and the game is very playable.

Tomb Raiders Legend & Anniversary are other games I have tried and again same scenario even at the higher res the 4850 makes these smooth where the GTX would stutter in places.

I realise this is partially because ATI have finally got their hardware to the level they failed at in the past few years but whatever they have done (better texture compression must be a big part of it) is a massive blow to NV as by my reckoning 1.2 Million pixels more to render (approx 30%) and it destroys the almighty GTX in several games is still very impressive when you consider the price differential to Nvidia's equivalent.

The problem this gives me now is that obviously all NV cards are seeing massive depreciation so how long to hold onto the 8800GTX before replacing it with a 4870:D

Guesss when the CEO of Nvidia talked about "opening a can of whoop ass" he was in fact talking about a can ATI @wned:D
 
Indeed. With the prices of 4850 cards now down to as little as £115 NEW the resell price of old NV cards will be very low indeed.

Why would anyone want to pay more than £70 for 2nd hand card like a GTX anymore when they can grab a 4850 for so little.
 
and i'd managed to convince myself that a 4850 wasn't worth upgrading to from an 8800gt :(

Oh decisions, decisions.....
 
Put my new 4850 in last night.
Age of Conan- Max settings, max view distance, af, aa, Bloom etc. 65fps outdoors 30fps in cities.
And the game looks sooooo beautiful!
Awesome card.
 
I can concur re the micro-stuttering. I sold my 320MB GTS due to unbearable stuttering in TDU/DiRT/GoW etc. I thought at the time that the 320MB might be a problem so upgraded to a 512MB GT. Guess what, faster fps but same bloody stutters.
After putting my 4850 in last night, booted into TDU and it's smooth as melted butter. The frame rate's about the same as the GT but it's consistently over 60 anyway so I don't care. Just nice to be able to drive along a road without hitting unavoidable trees and cars that suddenly appear in front of you after the game has lost a few frames.
Not tried GoW yet but Grid also seems smoother overall. Remarkably quiet as well but I have a nagging suspicion that will be "fixed" with the release of new drivers that don't limit the fan speeds.
 
zytok said:
I can concur re the micro-stuttering. I sold my 320MB GTS due to unbearable stuttering in TDU/DiRT/GoW etc. I thought at the time that the 320MB might be a problem so upgraded to a 512MB GT. Guess what, faster fps but same bloody stutters.
After putting my 4850 in last night, booted into TDU and it's smooth as melted butter. The frame rate's about the same as the GT but it's consistently over 60 anyway so I don't care. Just nice to be able to drive along a road without hitting unavoidable trees and cars that suddenly appear in front of you after the game has lost a few frames.
Not tried GoW yet but Grid also seems smoother overall. Remarkably quiet as well but I have a nagging suspicion that will be "fixed" with the release of new drivers that don't limit the fan speeds.
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I went from a 320mb GTS and love the 4850. Agree with all that has been said. :)
 
zytok said:
I can concur re the micro-stuttering. I sold my 320MB GTS due to unbearable stuttering in TDU/DiRT/GoW etc. I thought at the time that the 320MB might be a problem so upgraded to a 512MB GT. Guess what, faster fps but same bloody stutters.
After putting my 4850 in last night, booted into TDU and it's smooth as melted butter. The frame rate's about the same as the GT but it's consistently over 60 anyway so I don't care. Just nice to be able to drive along a road without hitting unavoidable trees and cars that suddenly appear in front of you after the game has lost a few frames.
Not tried GoW yet but Grid also seems smoother overall. Remarkably quiet as well but I have a nagging suspicion that will be "fixed" with the release of new drivers that don't limit the fan speeds.
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i have no stutter on the 8800GT, mabye something else in combination is causing the problem?
 
no stutter in what? TDU?

some drivers have been better than others but most games ran ok on the GT. Have reinstalled XP and Vista on numerous occasions, TDU is patched to 1.66A, GoW was patched to 1.1.
As others have reported similar issues with GoW and TDU I'd assumed it was the way in which the code was handled by the chipset. iirc there was even an admission on Atari's forums that they were aware of an issue with 8 series cards and they were speaking to nVidia to resolve it. Successive driver releases seemed to reduce the problem to the point where it seemed pretty good apart from an occasional grind which I guess you could put down to virtual memory.
People have suggested that a setting in GoW to do with texture streaming helps with stuttering but I found it ran better in Vista with 4xAA than XP with none.
If it's not the GT then what other explanation is there to me reinstalling and playing TDU the other night on XP and turning it off after 2 minutes because it was all over the place to playing it last night after installing the 4850 and it being silky smooth?
 
Im glad I sold my 8800GTS G92 for £120!

I have to say that I havnt really noticed much difference. Crysis seems to run smoother, UT3 a little choppier at times. Grid is absolutely lush! But on the whole, its got to be better with the new tech.

One weird thing though.... under XP the card causes crashing even under the mildest overclock, yet under Vista is runs like a dream.
 
wow, they really trump the 8800gt, just checked on anandtech :)

will keep my 8800gt for a while now though, 19" tft is fine for now :)
 
Only a year and a half late lol. As long as they don't fall too far behind in performance terms, then ATI are back :) Roll on the 5800 series :D

Matthew
 
How much of an increase would i see over a 7900GTX?

Im playing at 1440*900, and only now starting to see it struggle with some newer games :(

Also what about the 4870?
 
i dont get any of those stutters with my gtx :confused:

Besides its taken ATI this long to find a single card solution that can beat the GTX. well done.....i guess

Although yes i do want a 4870 or a 4870x2 :p
 
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