Poll: Who believes in God?

Your beliefs

  • I believe in God

    Votes: 135 13.4%
  • I do not believe in God

    Votes: 445 44.1%
  • I used to believe but have lost my faith

    Votes: 42 4.2%
  • I used to disbelieve but have found my faith

    Votes: 7 0.7%
  • I believe there is "something" but not sure what

    Votes: 200 19.8%
  • I'm Agnostic

    Votes: 167 16.6%
  • I believe in multiple deities

    Votes: 13 1.3%

  • Total voters
    1,009
Ocams razor or what ever it's called is implied.
So yes, maybe scientific answers are indeed assumptions, but when another idea comes along that backs up the first and so on and so on, one has to take the answer to be "true until proven otherwise"
That's the whole idea of science, EVERYTHING it stands for is open to argument of the conclusion.

Religion is a closed case, as said. "This is how it was, this is how it is.."

Actually, Occam's razor is a foundation of science, rather than something which should be used to back it up. Occam said that we ought to accept the simplest argument which could adequately explain its subject, NOT that that argument correctly shows what occurs in the world.

It is not true that everything that science stands for is open to argument. Science will always explain things in the simplest possible terms. This itself is not open.


Funny, because Darwinism is often used by any athiest to "disprove" the bible, when Darwin himself was religious, and a Christian.

Nowadays many people see evolution and creationism as being incompatible. Darwin was not one of them. His theory of evolution was, when he founded it, at an early stage, and therefore easier to fit in with religion. Many scientists now (see Dawkins!) have a different view. My point is that it is not the intelligence of these scientists, but their belief that evolution is incompatible with religion, that leads to their atheism. To be honest, it was a throwaway comment and I regret making it!
 
Well rumour has it that he converted on his deathbed, altough I don't suppos we'll ever know. He was certainly a Christian as a young man.

Doesn't that further my point? If he was Christian as a young man, then founded evolutionary theory, surely it was his science and not his intelligence which led to a weakening of his belief!?

Anyway, stop arguing with me-if you read my posts I'm trying to agree with you!!!! Someone intelligent can be religious, and I doubt that any negative correlation between belief and intelligence is due to a causal relation between intelligence and lack of belief.
 
Man has to have a framework to understand his world, years ago that was religion, it told us why the sun came up and went down again, why people died and why bad things happened. Religion filled the void in our understanding of our planet etc.

Problem is we now have science and while I don't think we've got everything figured out just yet it's a great deal more believable than God!

Not that long ago the religious elite were just another ruling class that kept "the mob" (that's you and I) in order with fear of devine retribution, it's only in fairly recent times that they've had to re-invent themselves and caring organistations!

Even now religous dogma blights peoples lives, many die of Aids in Africa because of the Catholic faiths refusal to condone birth control!

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Man has to have a framework to understand his world, years ago that was religion, it told us why the sun came up and went down again, why people died and why bad things happened. Religion filled the void of our understanding of our planet etc.

Problem is we now have science and while I don't think we've got everything figured out just yet it's a great deal more believable than God!

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Science doesnt answer any of the above questions though.
 
Why?, how?, it's all just the usual tactics that religious people use. 'We can't actually explain a whole lot of what we believe' (in a way that actually makes sense) so let's throw a million questions back so maybe our inconsistencies don't stand out quite so much.

It's all just nonsense, I'll gladly stand by that on my death bed.
 
Well rumour has it that he converted on his deathbed, altough I don't suppos we'll ever know. He was certainly a Christian as a young man.

Rumour? Don't you mean "Lies spread by an American Baptist newspaper that have spread to become an urban legend."

His family (some of whom were at his deathbed) have always denied it. I find it sad that some parts of Christianity feel that they need to lie to "protect" their faith, don't you?
 
Hasn't the old "virgin birth" thing been knocking around well before the bible, many religions that pre-date Christianity have virgin births don't they?
 
His family (some of whom were at his deathbed) have always denied it. I find it sad that some parts of Christianity feel that they need to lie to "protect" their faith, don't you?

Yes, but I also find it sad that people judge peoples faith, based on extremely narrow minded knowledge of mainstream religions.
 
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