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Quite right and that's the crux of it. The Americans knew it was going to happen and did sweet FA to stop it. That is the only 'conspiracy'.
Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower
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Quite right and that's the crux of it. The Americans knew it was going to happen and did sweet FA to stop it. That is the only 'conspiracy'.
Sadly though, like many topics covered on this board you must have a black or white opinion and your mind made up....there is no room for debate.
So many people are desperate to jump into either the Conspiracy camp or the anti-Conspiracy camp and can't seem to see there is a blatantly obvious middle ground where you can see government documented lies surrounding the event.
If you believe in bombs in the buildings and some grand manufactured terror false flag operation then you need to learn the facts. If you believe the American government was entirely innocent and it was impossible for the attacks to have been stopped, again you need to read the facts.
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The major problem with 9/11 are the large amount of coincidences surrounding the event, plus the outcome from it all. A quick rundown:
Silverstein bought the WTC 7 weeks before it was hit, and quickly put terrorism into the insurance coverage.
Before the WTC was hit, oil companies were refusing to run a pipeline through Afghanistan until a stable government was in place.
On the day of 9/11, all air coverage were elsewhere running simulations, leaving the area defenceless.
Three skyscrapers fell perfectly despite no skyscraper in history ever having collapsed in such a way.
The aircraft that hit the Pentagon has no visible wreckage, except for an engine pulled from inside the building.
The area hit at the Pentagon was the least populated as that section had been cut off due to 'construction work'.
Some of the hijackers of the planes were later found to be alive and well.
Cell phone calls from the planes were an impossibility, while the official word is that they were from airphones, which weren't even fitted on three of the planes.
The list goes on...
A few quotes:
"To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan but for what happened on September 11." - Tony Blair to the Commons Liaison Committee in July 2002.
“All this was inspired by the principle — which is quite true in itself — that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”
AND
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”
- Adolf Hitler
Silverstein bought the WTC 7 weeks before it was hit, and quickly put terrorism into the insurance coverage.
Before the WTC was hit, oil companies were refusing to run a pipeline through Afghanistan until a stable government was in place.
On the day of 9/11, all air coverage were elsewhere running simulations, leaving the area defenceless.
Three skyscrapers fell perfectly despite no skyscraper in history ever having collapsed in such a way.
The aircraft that hit the Pentagon has no visible wreckage, except for an engine pulled from inside the building.
The area hit at the Pentagon was the least populated as that section had been cut off due to 'construction work'.
Some of the hijackers of the planes were later found to be alive and well.
Cell phone calls from the planes were an impossibility, while the official word is that they were from airphones, which weren't even fitted on three of the planes.
The list goes on...
A few quotes:
"To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan but for what happened on September 11." - Tony Blair to the Commons Liaison Committee in July 2002.
“All this was inspired by the principle — which is quite true in itself — that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”
AND
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland.”
- Adolf Hitler
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lol this thread is so funny, everyone seems to be building engineer these days and knows everything? especially AcidHell lol, mate you seem like you know it all 
Yet you base yourself on internet documents cheers!
I really won't put any trust in either opinion because the only thing people in this thread do is do some google fight of some sort, you guys were not there you have absolutely no knowledge of the builindg beside the one you found on the net.
I'd be way more interested to hear the people who actually knows stuffs rather than people who use google then claim to be building engineers, physicians and theorists at the same time
Yet you base yourself on internet documents cheers!I really won't put any trust in either opinion because the only thing people in this thread do is do some google fight of some sort, you guys were not there you have absolutely no knowledge of the builindg beside the one you found on the net.
I'd be way more interested to hear the people who actually knows stuffs rather than people who use google then claim to be building engineers, physicians and theorists at the same time
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So you think that a whole string of coincidences was just... a coincidence? Hmm..
All rubbish, really use your brain.
This is simply rubbish. the insurance policy was part of the terms of sale and included terrorist acts. He didn't not specify this. this what part of the conditions of sale and has been since it was built.
nothing like this has happened before there was major cockups in communication and no rules to follow.
As you keep ignoring. the TWC is built in such a way that no other Skyscrape in the history of the universe has ever been built. It's unique design menat it fell like this. Again read that bloody pdf. Really you are showing how idiotic you are here.
Again complete and utter trype. There is loads of debris from the plane. Which is then backed up by other evidence.
Chopped down street lamps from the wings and guess what chopped down in a pattern the same width as the wings.
A 10ton generator pushed back from the plane as it was clipped before *** plane hit the pentagon. Something a missile simply can not do.
Again you are being silly and have not thought about this at all.
Hardly a surprise it is. something like this is complicated and it is hardly surprising they got names wrong.
Which can be made but can be unreliable.
Only in fantasy land, which you are clearly in. Go read up on the subject and not believe the lose change videos it really does show you up..
I see they have rebuilt tower 7 now...I hope they remembered to plant the explosives at the time of construction in case they need to do it again !!!111
the mind boggles at the way people think ohter people think! when you start to say things like this..that a somebody secretly wired a building for demolition WHEN IT WAS BUILT just in case,(in case of what!!!>??) then you really begin to wonder about their thought processes
the simple fact of the matter is this...if they couldnt keep it secret that the president of the US had a sex in the white house...how does anybody think you could keep a secret that involved (depending on which conspiracy theory you believe) the US govt, the new york fire dept and police dept and the worlds media...there is no logic to it all all..if they cannot keep minor things a secret how would they keep something as big as this a secret.....the bloke was right, our govt leave laptops with peoples lives on them ont he train..they loose millions of peoples bank details...governments cannot keep anything bloody secret!!! how could they organise something like this and a) not **** it up or b) not let anybody else find out!!
these people are loons out to make a quick buck
the mind boggles at the way people think ohter people think! when you start to say things like this..that a somebody secretly wired a building for demolition WHEN IT WAS BUILT just in case,(in case of what!!!>??) then you really begin to wonder about their thought processes
the simple fact of the matter is this...if they couldnt keep it secret that the president of the US had a sex in the white house...how does anybody think you could keep a secret that involved (depending on which conspiracy theory you believe) the US govt, the new york fire dept and police dept and the worlds media...there is no logic to it all all..if they cannot keep minor things a secret how would they keep something as big as this a secret.....the bloke was right, our govt leave laptops with peoples lives on them ont he train..they loose millions of peoples bank details...governments cannot keep anything bloody secret!!! how could they organise something like this and a) not **** it up or b) not let anybody else find out!!
these people are loons out to make a quick buck
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you have lots of what you believe to be cicumstantial evidence which is actually just rubbish.
your basing your conclusions on opinion and heresay.
when provided with actual facts you turn a blind eye and ignore them.
maybe you should start questioning yourself as to why you are determined to look for answers that dont exist
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Don't grant him that. It's not even circumstantial. It's plain lies and can not be linked with evidence at all.
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So anyway back to the facts..
Intereted? - Read the official 297 page FBI document here:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/news.jsp?oid=140393703-423
Intereted? - Read the official 297 page FBI document here:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/news.jsp?oid=140393703-423
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Another small comparison to Germany, take a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
Quoted from the article:
"The entire project, dubbed Operation Himmler and comprising 21 incidents in all, was intended to give the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany."
"American correspondents were summoned to the scene next day, but no neutral parties were allowed to investigate the incident in detail and the international public was skeptical of the German version of the incident. A few days after the Invasion of Poland, the international public and press realized the huge scale of the German "defensive action" in the days immediately after the Gleiwitz incident meant that the operation had to be planned months in advance."
Has quite a few similarities if you ask me. But hey, I'm quitting this thread now as its basically turned into two sides bashing against each other. One side believes everything they're told, the other likes to question.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
Quoted from the article:
"The entire project, dubbed Operation Himmler and comprising 21 incidents in all, was intended to give the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany."
"American correspondents were summoned to the scene next day, but no neutral parties were allowed to investigate the incident in detail and the international public was skeptical of the German version of the incident. A few days after the Invasion of Poland, the international public and press realized the huge scale of the German "defensive action" in the days immediately after the Gleiwitz incident meant that the operation had to be planned months in advance."
Has quite a few similarities if you ask me. But hey, I'm quitting this thread now as its basically turned into two sides bashing against each other. One side believes everything they're told, the other likes to question.
Give us evidence, you can't as you don't have any and still sprout rubbish when we provide evidence. Like why the towers would fall in the way they did...
You really are a closed minded sheep.... Does it make you feel good hitting on the powers?
or you could say one side believes facts and actual evidence and the very few people in the other court believe what they read or hear on tinterent
as far as I could tell those people that believe its all a conspiracy just seem to point to completely illogical ways of justifying their theories
again pointing to the 'controlled demolition' of tower 7...... you couldnt physically set up the necessary charges and wiring without anybody noticing, so they just say that they were put in place at the time the building was constructed, or rennovated. its so completely mad to say something like that but thats all they can come up with!!
like nobody would notice..like nobody who actually didnt wouldnt mention to a partner of friend (hey joe/mabel etc you will never guess what we did today!!)
saying something as plain daft as this instantly makes me think that these people will say anything to prove that they are right..no matter how illogical our outlandish..they also seem willing to ignore cold hard evidence and blame the people who provide such evidence as being in on the conspiracy
again pointing to the 'controlled demolition' of tower 7...... you couldnt physically set up the necessary charges and wiring without anybody noticing, so they just say that they were put in place at the time the building was constructed, or rennovated. its so completely mad to say something like that but thats all they can come up with!!
like nobody would notice..like nobody who actually didnt wouldnt mention to a partner of friend (hey joe/mabel etc you will never guess what we did today!!)
saying something as plain daft as this instantly makes me think that these people will say anything to prove that they are right..no matter how illogical our outlandish..they also seem willing to ignore cold hard evidence and blame the people who provide such evidence as being in on the conspiracy
there's still no evidenced for controlled demo..