Stop............. Kuro time

OCdude · 6 Jul 2008 at 19:01

Nice screens

I took a look at the 5090 in John Lewis today... not sure if it was just because it hadn't been setup properly.. but it seemed... kinda... grainy? or fuzzy... :S

That was standing about a metre away though (i think it was playing a looping Pioneer demo vid - so it wasn't a crap reception TV feed).

[DOD]Asprilla · 6 Jul 2008 at 19:19

There could be a number of reasons for the graininess, but I'd say the main one was that you were standing around 40" from a 50" screen and as a result you could probably see the individual pixels!

You could probably see some 'shimmering' at that distance as well, which wouldn't help.

Plasmas aren't great close up, but then their not designed to be used like that.

-Ad- · 6 Jul 2008 at 20:24

If you see one of these then the standard setup is appauling.

Get the remote, put the picture in MOVIE mode. That will make it infinately better Then tune these: contrast 32, brightness 0, colour -2, shaprness -13, go into picture detail and turn off DRE

Should make it better without having to go mad with other settings.

badbob · 7 Jul 2008 at 09:17

Top one looks like my well setup Samsung LCD, and the bottom is a badly setup Pioneer plasma.
Oh wait you just wanted to say all LCD's are crap. :-/

-Ad- · 7 Jul 2008 at 13:37

Huh ?

badbob · 7 Jul 2008 at 13:41

Your dig at LCD....
I can make my LCD look like the first pic, by reducing sharpness, disabling all processing, reducing colour to correct levels, and use quality scaling/de-interlacing.

-Ad- · 7 Jul 2008 at 13:51

badbob said:
Your dig at LCD....
I can make my LCD look like the first pic, by reducing sharpness, disabling all processing, reducing colour to correct levels, and use quality scaling/de-interlacing.

Don't know what you're on about, no dig at an LCD from me, apart from posting the different pictures then saying ya rly.

Il probably delete those pics and try to keep these thread about the Kuro.

AbsenceJam · 7 Jul 2008 at 14:05

Let me dig at LCD then. badbob there's no way that you could ever get your LCD to produce an image that comes close to resembling what a Kuro can do.

Simon · 7 Jul 2008 at 14:08

AbsenceJam said:
Let me dig at LCD then. badbob there's no way that you could ever get your LCD to produce an image that comes close to resembling what a Kuro can do.

You'll never get a Kuro to look like real life either.

Who honestly cares enough to argue. Ad has obviously picked a very good setting for the Kuro and an awful one for the LCD. Hardly a fair comparison

-Ad- · 7 Jul 2008 at 14:17

Simon said:
You'll never get a Kuro to look like real life either.

Who honestly cares enough to argue. Ad has obviously picked a very good setting for the Kuro and an awful one for the LCD. Hardly a fair comparison

Yes, and it was just an example, and i probably should not have even posted which sets they were, and just talked about producing an accurate image. Would have saved any arguing

I just took those pics from another thread on avforums, we know what sets they are but not their settings. Just to show bad and good, that's it

badbob · 7 Jul 2008 at 14:28

AbsenceJam said:
Let me dig at LCD then. badbob there's no way that you could ever get your LCD to produce an image that comes close to resembling what a Kuro can do.

I didn't say that. I said you can get a LCD to look good, and better than out of the box settings. To show two pictures, one from a £3000 Pioneer plasma which has been calibrated, to a £900 LCD straight of the box is daft.

I watched I Am Legend on my LCD, didn't look like the second picture at all, and pretty close to the first one.

james.miller · 7 Jul 2008 at 14:46

\o/ theres some iso noise from my camera there, but you get the idea

edit: hmmm. looking at that on the forums, photoshop is doing something funky with my photos that i never noticed before. the colours are off :/ /goes off to investigate

Simon · 7 Jul 2008 at 14:57

What tv is that james

james.miller · 7 Jul 2008 at 14:58

that, is my trusty sony 40w2000

Simon · 7 Jul 2008 at 15:05

james.miller said:
that, is my trusty sony 40w2000

Its obviously broken then, his face should have a radioactive glow.

Beansprout · 7 Jul 2008 at 15:45

james.miller said:
edit: hmmm. looking at that on the forums, photoshop is doing something funky with my photos that i never noticed before. the colours are off :/ /goes off to investigate

Are you using FF3? If so, follow the following for much better colours

Type about:config in Firefox 3's address bar, then click the "I'll be careful, I promise!" button. Then, in the Filter field, type gfx.color_management.enabled and set that value to true (its default value is false). Restart Firefox

james.miller · 7 Jul 2008 at 15:48

I am but its not firefox. firefox is the same as windows explorer, which both show the colours closer to what im seeing from the tv than photoshop does. very odd lol

edit: basically what im saying is that when editing in photoshop, the colours are too rich. but when you save it, and view it on the web, or windows preview, they are correct.

badbob · 7 Jul 2008 at 15:51

james.miller said:
that, is my trusty sony 40w2000

Proof you can setup a LCD to have great picture.

Just need quality sources. Although Plasma does seem to cope better with higher compressed sources. Put on a high bitrate DVD ie LOTR and the gap closes (ignoring aspects that plasma can do better)

OCdude · 8 Jul 2008 at 10:02

Well im gonna have another look at the 5090 today haha, the store are going to hate me soon

-Ad- · 8 Jul 2008 at 13:27

OCdude said:
Well im gonna have another look at the 5090 today haha, the store are going to hate me soon

Make sure you play with the settings as posted, at least get into movie mode, brightness at 0, sharpness -15, then turn off all noise reduction/processing.

Nice pic james, looks good from the photo. Pity you have just edited the kuro photo in photochop