Grid - 360 vs PS3

[Raikiri]

Mouse, Keyboard, Operating System etc...

To be fair most people have an OS, there are cheaper places available and a KB/Mouse isn't expensive

If by 'etc.' you mean screen/speakers... well surely you need that for a console as well?

 

[dbmzk1]

Sorry but you've been mislead there is absolutely no difference between Full and Limited, all Full does is remap the Limited spectrum to the 0-255 range for use on monitors and the like.

If you enable full on an unsupported TV you'll get black crush, if you enable Full on a supported TV it will look identical than if both were set at Limited.

Incorrect. If used on a supported TV the difference is quite apparent. Blacks are much deeper, colours more vivid, detail is enhanced and contrast is much improved, in both movies and games.


Re the Op, you will need to calibrate the TV for each console, not simply switch between them. You need to make sure each is setup correctly otherwise either could look a lot worse than it perhaps should.

 

[PiKe]

Well a fair comparrison would be to have the consoles calibrated to the tv each in turn, otherwise its pointless.

Colours more vibrant on the 360? Turn the colour up when you plug the PS3 in and you will get the same vibrant colours no?

I doubt it as it looked like a grey haze across the image. Can't saturate colours that aren't really there to begin with.

 

[dbmzk1]

I doubt it as it looked like a grey haze across the image. Can't saturate colours that aren't really there to begin with.

Then your other settings such as contrast etc are incorrect as well.

As said you can't just switch between the two and expect both to look identical. They are both totally different pieces of equipment. It's like when you switch to an ATI card from Nvidia or vice versa and everything looks different. You have to recalibrate the display appropriately.

Also, you have not said if RGB full range is on or not and if your TV supports it. This will, as I said above, make for a big improvement in the PS3s picture quality if supported.

 

[Edz]

This seems to be the case with most games on both systems. I would have thought it's more down to the gfx cards as the nvidia cards in my experience have always produced less vibrant colours.

 

[MagicBoy]

360 just beats the PS3 on GRID. PC just beats 360 with a decent spec and card.

Main problem with the PS3 version is the tearing which I can't detect on the 360. PS3 also looks washed out in comparison to the 360 on my TV. (360 via component, PS3 via HDMI).

Anyways, I bought the PC version as it was £15 less than the other two! 1600x1200 with 4x AA looks lush.

 

[JBeck]

I thought off the top of my head this was for Blu Ray movies.
Games dont use anywhere near the billions of colours available so i VERY much doubt that ANY games will make much benifit from this.

Chances are your new PANEL is just better than your old one and its nothing to do with the RGB settings.

Limited looks the same on both my TV's, exactly the same. Full RGB only works right on my new panel as it fully supports it. I'm not talking movies or games, it's as simple as looking at the XMB, changing the settings and you can see the results instantly. The fact is, limited setting does tend to look washed out, it's been a complaint of many users. Full RGB, if supported, looks lush. If the OP does not have a set that supports full RGB then he'll come to the conclusion that he has, the PS3's colours look washed out... which is the point I'm making

 

[TheStig1]

Its been a cumulative £1000.

The spec in my sig was £500ish about 18 months ago, but since then ive upgraded the RAM, the monitor, the case, the Graphics card and some other junk, so probubly totals £1000 now. When you add in all the other junk required for a PC, such as peripherals, hard drives or 4, etc etc, it starts to add up.

No PC will ever beat a consoles 'out of the box' playability.

yeah i know what you mean
i gave up trying to keep my pc up to date
but i only play a few games on it these days that are a bit older

 

[TheStig1]

Limited looks the same on both my TV's, exactly the same. Full RGB only works right on my new panel as it fully supports it. I'm not talking movies or games, it's as simple as looking at the XMB, changing the settings and you can see the results instantly. The fact is, limited setting does tend to look washed out, it's been a complaint of many users. Full RGB, if supported, looks lush. If the OP does not have a set that supports full RGB then he'll come to the conclusion that he has, the PS3's colours look washed out... which is the point I'm making

i just messed around with mine
limited does look more washed out
i went to full and looked much better on xmb
but when i played uncharted the shadows looked a bit blueish on some bits would this be an effect of full not being supported?

 

[KittensCake]

I thought off the top of my head this was for Blu Ray movies.
Games dont use anywhere near the billions of colours available so i VERY much doubt that ANY games will make much benifit from this.

Chances are your new PANEL is just better than your old one and its nothing to do with the RGB settings.

Actually I think it's the other way around. Computer RGB which games are rendered in is 0-255, blu rays are limited at 16-235.

i just messed around with mine
limited does look more washed out
i went to full and looked much better on xmb
but when i played uncharted the shadows looked a bit blueish on some bits would this be an effect of full not being supported?

If you're using HDMI try changing the HDMI black level setting, or whatever equivalent setting your TV has. You have to get the right combination of settings. On mine for example I've got HDMI black level low with full RGB enabled, and I can have the brightness at about 67 before blacks start turn greyer. Before I enabled full RGB I could only put the brightness up to about 40 without this happening.

It's the same for the 360 and the reference levels option. AV forums seems to recommend HDMI black level low reference levels expanded.

 

[JBeck]

i just messed around with mine
limited does look more washed out
i went to full and looked much better on xmb
but when i played uncharted the shadows looked a bit blueish on some bits would this be an effect of full not being supported?

Yes you are correct, it's not fully supported.

I did find that using limited, I could improve things by dropping the brightness, turning up the backlight and having the colour setting on warm. Looked rather nice but not quite as good as full RGB.

I do have a little full RGB test image, think I got it from AV Forums. Do a search on google and there are a few different ones floating around.

 

[Inoshishi]

Yes you are correct, it's not fully supported.

I did find that using limited, I could improve things by dropping the brightness, turning up the backlight and having the colour setting on warm. Looked rather nice but not quite as good as full RGB.

I do have a little full RGB test image, think I got it from AV Forums. Do a search on google and there are a few different ones floating around.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17875551