And the questions have been answered with facts and logic, that seem to go completely unread.
Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower
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And the questions have been answered with facts and logic, that seem to go completely unread.
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Let me guess, Chris Carter has since disappeared, encrypted communications by him from an unknown location periodically appearing on the internet. These have been decrypted by X-files fans to reveal that Carter is on the run from the CIA. The script for his new X-files movie ha also been communicated to his fans through these encrypted communications, piecemeal, to be decrypted and reconstructed on CT forums, members of which subsequently raised all the funding for the film's production themselves!
Ssshh!
You were questioning why the planes reached their destinations, why they did not react by shooting the planes down. I provided evidence suggesting that they did consider shooting down Flight 93, but that Flight 93 crashed first. You failed to address this and instead got butthurt because I called you a conspiracy theorist.
Besdies, AcidHell's post explains quite thoroughly why the fighters did not respond properly.
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They considered it?! Well, that's reassuring. How about the other planes?
And are you sure about AcidHell's post explaining everything? So anyone wanting to crash a plane in to the Pentagon merely needs to switch off their tracking devices? That's it?! That was the terrorist's master plan!? Maybe they even tippy-toed around the cockpit to make doubly sure they weren't found
Are you aware that there is a military airbase within very close proximity of the Pentagon? That the same area is a no fly zone to anyone other than authorised aircraft. They didn't do anything to stop the plan crashing.
Did you miss the part where norad radar only pointed out, not the case anymore. Or that there was no direct line to norad, again not the case anymore. Or that for some reason they phoned norad late and with out dated info.They considered it?! Well, that's reassuring. How about the other planes?
And are you sure about AcidHell's post explaining everything? So anyone wanting to crash a plane in to the Pentagon merely needs to switch off their tracking devices? That's it?! That was the terrorist's master plan!? Maybe they even tippy-toed around the cockpit to make doubly sure they weren't found
Are you aware that there is a military airbase within very close proximity of the Pentagon? That the same area is a no fly zone to anyone other than authorised aircraft. They didn't do anything to stop the plan crashing.
Might be a millitary base but was there any planes on standby, unlikely as there was only 14 in the country.
But that's the response I expect from you ..
The planes that hit the towers obviously took them by surprise.
They didn't have enough jets to cover the airspace, and as you already acknowledged, hijackers had disabled the plane's transponder. How do you expect them to know where the target is, psychic powers?And are you sure about AcidHell's post explaining everything? So anyone wanting to crash a plane in to the Pentagon merely needs to switch off their tracking devices? That's it?! That was the terrorist's master plan!? Maybe they even tippy-toed around the cockpit to make doubly sure they weren't found
I'm sure the CIA psy-ops read the minds of the terrorists, discovered this plan, then didn't do anything.
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They didn't have enough jets to cover the airspace, and as you already acknowledged, hijackers had disabled the plane's transponder. How do you expect them to know where the target is, psychic powers?
Well that or RADAR.
Night all. I'm done.
because ATC radar is set up to search for planes..
I think Acidhell said they had no line to NORAD!
Edit: Ah no, even worse. I think he said NORAD wasn't prepared for sweeping the interior of the US.
Thank God.
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I think everyone on here will agree that the events of 9/11 (twin towers, pentagon, wtc7, plane crashing in field etc) are all linked together and were carried out by the same group/organisation.
Its very very very unlikely that one of the above events was totally unrelated to the others but coincidentally happened on the same day.
Bearing this in mind, if their is inconsistencies in even one of the events it casts a doubt over them all. However, there are actually inconsistencies in all the events that took place that day.
One thing that made me wonder was the account of a chap called William Rodriguez, one of heroes on 9/11. He worked as a janitor in the WTC for over 10 years and knew the buildings inside out, he also access to all the floors. On 9/11 he saved the lives off many people risking his own, and many of his work colleagues and close friends died on 9/11, but his account of the events that took place that day are quite shocking. I saw a video of his on youtube, quite a lengthy one but well worth the watch, not sure if that link has already been posted in here, haven't gone through the whole thread. But basically he recalls an explosion from the basement of the WTC seconds BEFORE any plane actually hit, and numerous explosions going on inside the building as he was giving access to firefighters to different floors. Maybe he was mistaken and was hearing something else I don't know, or maybe he's just a liar? His talk is definately worth listening too.
Not to mention on the actual day 9/11, I think everyone remembers clearly what they were doing that day as the events unfolded. I was watching the news live and remember they said they have now sent up fighter planes, they even showed a brief clip, then never mentioned it again. Then we hear one plane crash landed in the middle of a field, because the passengers struggled with the hijackers etc.
Did they ever release any video footage of a plane hitting the pentagon?
Night all
Its very very very unlikely that one of the above events was totally unrelated to the others but coincidentally happened on the same day.
Bearing this in mind, if their is inconsistencies in even one of the events it casts a doubt over them all. However, there are actually inconsistencies in all the events that took place that day.
One thing that made me wonder was the account of a chap called William Rodriguez, one of heroes on 9/11. He worked as a janitor in the WTC for over 10 years and knew the buildings inside out, he also access to all the floors. On 9/11 he saved the lives off many people risking his own, and many of his work colleagues and close friends died on 9/11, but his account of the events that took place that day are quite shocking. I saw a video of his on youtube, quite a lengthy one but well worth the watch, not sure if that link has already been posted in here, haven't gone through the whole thread. But basically he recalls an explosion from the basement of the WTC seconds BEFORE any plane actually hit, and numerous explosions going on inside the building as he was giving access to firefighters to different floors. Maybe he was mistaken and was hearing something else I don't know, or maybe he's just a liar? His talk is definately worth listening too.
Not to mention on the actual day 9/11, I think everyone remembers clearly what they were doing that day as the events unfolded. I was watching the news live and remember they said they have now sent up fighter planes, they even showed a brief clip, then never mentioned it again. Then we hear one plane crash landed in the middle of a field, because the passengers struggled with the hijackers etc.
Did they ever release any video footage of a plane hitting the pentagon?
Night all
I think everyone on here will agree that the events of 9/11 (twin towers, pentagon, wtc7, plane crashing in field etc) are all linked together and were carried out by the same group/organisation.
Its very very very unlikely that one of the above events was totally unrelated to the others but coincidentally happened on the same day.
Bearing this in mind, if their is inconsistencies in even one of the events it casts a doubt over them all. However, there are actually inconsistencies in all the events that took place that day.
One thing that made me wonder was the account of a chap called William Rodriguez, one of heroes on 9/11. He worked as a janitor in the WTC for over 10 years and knew the buildings inside out, he also access to all the floors. On 9/11 he saved the lives off many people risking his own, and many of his work colleagues and close friends died on 9/11, but his account of the events that took place that day are quite shocking. I saw a video of his on youtube, quite a lengthy one but well worth the watch, not sure if that link has already been posted in here, haven't gone through the whole thread. But basically he recalls an explosion from the basement of the WTC seconds BEFORE any plane actually hit, and numerous explosions going on inside the building as he was giving access to firefighters to different floors. Maybe he was mistaken and was hearing something else I don't know, or maybe he's just a liar? His talk is definately worth listening too.
Not to mention on the actual day 9/11, I think everyone remembers clearly what they were doing that day as the events unfolded. I was watching the news live and remember they said they have now sent up fighter planes, they even showed a brief clip, then never mentioned it again. Then we hear one plane crash landed in the middle of a field, because the passengers struggled with the hijackers etc.
Did they ever release any video footage of a plane hitting the pentagon?
Night all
Surely if he heard explosions, others would have heard the same thing. a lot of people got evacuated from the buildings before they went down. So surely more than one person would remember.
Oh, and surely he would have seen bombs being planted, if he knew the building inside out?
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So with that story whats the main belief and whats the conspiracy.
what do u mean?
If they heard explosions they would have evacuated
After the planes hit there would have been loads of "explosions" the reality is 99% of people couldn't tell the difference between an explosion and an object falling from a height.
People always bring up the explosion quotes. It's simply bits of debris falling. The impact will give huge bangs, Which people mistake as explosions.
Just because I'm not fully qualified doesn't mean I'm not entitled to an opinion they should plan for every possible situation. A Muslim capturing a plane is certainly one of them. They've already got a handbook on that. And once a situation like that arrives there are several outcomes, which can be predicted and planned.
IRA capturing a plane are not likely to plow the plane into the ground. A group that hates the US, has been capturing planes, followers killing themselves plus anyone around them...you figure it out.
Do YOU want the UK M15/TA/police/goverment/emergency services to sit on there arses all day play PSX, or actually predicting terrorist attacks, and writing down procedures ? After all a nuclear detonation hasen't occured in the UK yet so why bother lay down the foundation? to the after math
Agencies have protocols for things like chemical and biological attacks, this is exactly the same. Again neither have occured in the UK so why bother?
As has already been said the internal RADAR system was not designed in a way that would allow ATCs to pick out planes that had turned off their transponders and changed course from a sea of identical and very similar planes. I know this because everytime someone from ATC has been interviewed on the matter this is what they have said. If it were a lie you would have hundreds of ATCs who would know instantly that it was a lie and it wouldn't have taken long for the lie to be exposed by the people that we would believe.
As for whether the people in charge would have considered the possibility of terrorists using passenger planes as weapons I'm sure someone did. But because the huge majority of hijackings result in them landing the plane and demanding money etc I'm sure this is what the government would have expected to happen so wouldn't be rushing to launch the missiles.
Just because I'm not fully qualified doesn't mean I'm not entitled to an opinion they should plan for every possible situation. A Muslim capturing a plane is certainly one of them. They've already got a handbook on that. And once a situation like that arrives there are several outcomes, which can be predicted and planned.
IRA capturing a plane are not likely to plow the plane into the ground. A group that hates the US, has been capturing planes, followers killing themselves plus anyone around them...you figure it out.
Do YOU want the UK M15/TA/police/goverment/emergency services to sit on there arses all day play PSX, or actually predicting terrorist attacks, and writing down procedures ? After all a nuclear detonation hasen't occured in the UK yet so why bother lay down the foundation? to the after math
Agencies have protocols for things like chemical and biological attacks, this is exactly the same. Again neither have occured in the UK so why bother?
It's very easy to look back on events and say what should have been done. But do you really think in the heat of the moment when there were lots of mixed reports about what was going on (did the military at the time when it could have made a difference even know that it was muslim extremists that have hijacked the plane?) that the decision could have been taken so quickly to shoot the planes down over populated areas? I really don't think so.
Just because a think tank might have sat down and considered this exact event occurring it doesn't mean that it was at the forefront of every ones minds, or even if it was that they considered it to be a likely outcome. There are any number of scenarios that could be imagined. If you considered all of them at the time of a hijacking it would be long over by the time you'd done so. I would expect them to use their experience and knowledge of what normally happens when there is a hijacking, and that is a negotiation. In hindsight yes this was a mistake, but if the worlds militarises had a policy of always shooting down a hijacked plane even over populated areas I'm sure we'd have lost far more civilians then we did on 9/11.
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You think so? They have no problem killing 1,000,000+ people in Iraq. You think they value people in there own country that much more than in other countries?
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It doesn't matter if they get found out because they can just make programs like the BBC one on sunday to paint themselves as being innocent and the masses will genuinely accept it as the gospel truth because it's coming from a state funded corporate media channel.
I watched the program on BBC and thought it was a blatent psy-op and damage limitation exercise. However, the statistics speak for themselves 50% of americans don't believe the official version of 9/11 and, rightly, think they're being lied to. And a smaller but growing amount of that 50% believe 9/11 was a total inside job. With those sort of statistics the establishment will find it difficult to sustain there lies for much longer and now they're just trying to stall the inevitable day when the masses wake up by feeding them heavily biased investigations that favour the official version of events like the rubbish on the BBC the other night.
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There's no need to speculate because 'insiders' have already come out and said who was behind it :-
Strange how you had a (now deceased) hollywood director, candidate for governer of nevada and close friend of Nick Rockefeller revealing the truth behind 9/11, but it never made it onto the news or the BBC's conspiracy files.
Left Aaron Russo, Right Nick Rockefeller
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