Focus RS

They said they made a 4x4 up and it was actually slower around the track than the FWD version, which is why they stuck with it.
 
Dolph said:
How does the likelyhood of engine torque and power overcoming mechanical grip have anything to do with driver skill?

The driver can learn to modulate around it, sure, or you can fit electronics that limit the power so you don't get all of it when you can't use it, but that's not a substitute for understanding the physics involved. The weight moves when you accelerate hard, away from the front of the car and to the back, that why RWD is better in that regard, and why 4WD systems push power to the back under acceleration.
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Ya I agree but when people read figures of +250bhp and FWD they jump to the "good luck driving it" conclusion when really the matter actually lends itself to how well the car is balanced i.e. push vs pull. You only have to look at touring car racing and you'll see both fwd and rwd going head to head.

A drivers preference/skill comes into the equation too
 
If the diff has been set up properly in the first place I'm sure it won't be much of a problem.

I do remember a certain 270hp 147GTA being a nightmare for a) crap diff, b) mighty heavy engine.

The volvo engine is a great engine and I'm sure they've not done an Audi with regards to position.
 
Simon said:
Most people who comment have never even driven a high power FWD car anyway.
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True :)

People tend to overlook that generally in a 2wd car you outbreak all them 4wd rallyslags! Even dare I say it, corner faster to! :D

Sure you know the name of that guy who races(still?) the rover coupe at the castle coombe championship? Its slipped my mind but he done awesome job v much higher powered 4wd cars.
 
Cryfreeman said:
True :)

People tend to overlook that generally in a 2wd car you outbreak all them 4wd rallyslags! Even dare I say it, corner faster to! :D

Sure you know the name of that guy who races(still?) the rover coupe at the castle coombe championship? Its slipped my mind but he done awesome job v much higher powered 4wd cars.
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Gary Prebble. He now has a Evo, infact it was the Evo that Simon Norris crashed into.

But yeah his car had the saloon car record at combe, proper beast. Not sure if still has it.

I've also been out in a mk3 Rover 200 with about 330hp. That thing was an animal, accelerate like a bike with silly amounts of traction. Im sure Ford can do better than someone in a garage too.

I'm waiting to see what it will cost on our work car scheme.
 
As a point of interest the fastest Time Attack Cars last year(Zen-phil glew) ran around the same time as a BTCC car at brands.

Sure the BTCC car has a pro driver but Phil Grew can peddle some.

Also the fact of 300bhp in a car which is probally heavier v a 700hp/4wd roaring rally machine
 
oh wow, another FRS thread, let's see doesn't it go something like....

Oh noes fwd suxor, may as well buy an ST and buy a remap, new suspension, new interior, lsd, bodykit, wheels, brakes and stuff. :p

Personally think it'll be a good car with just the price being the sticking point, too high and it'll price itself out the market.
 
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I'll take a stab in the dark and say the ford team might know a little bit more on which system was best for the new focus.

Could be wrong though, I see a lot of you have designed cars before.
 
ethos said:
I'll take a stab in the dark and say the ford team might know a little bit more on which system was best for the new focus.

Could be wrong though, I see a lot of you have designed cars before.
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I question Ford's design team being the major factor here. They will only work with what they have been told to design/spec to work too by Ford's marketing & cheeses at the top ultimately coming down to $$$. Left in the hands of the ever so creative design team you would end up with an actual concept making it through to production and it would therefore have 4WD :)
 
thepharcyde said:
I question Ford's design team being the major factor here. They will only work with what they have been told to design/spec to work too by Ford's marketing & cheeses at the top ultimately coming down to $$$. Left in the hands of the ever so creative design team you would end up with an actual concept making it through to production and it would therefore have 4WD :)
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if left to the design team they would end up with nothing as ford cant afford to produce a 4wd rs, so its up to you really would you rather a fwd rs or nothing?
 
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