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9800 gtx+ eta ?

Aren't these meant to compete with the 4850?

If so they're about £20 too expensive.

They perform similarly to the 4850, but are more expensive, even in USD - $229 for the 9800 GTX+, $199 for the 4850, nVidia are positioning the 9800 GTX at the same price point as the 4850.
 
why would you want to invest in a stop gap?

I don't really view it as a stop gap card, as AFAIK NV don't have anything faster coming out at the £140 mark for a while. In fact I think there are very few stop gap cards that get released (maybe the 7800GTX 512 and some dual-gpu solutions), it's really a question of people buying their chosen card now, or choosing to wait.
 
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I don't really view it as a stop gap card, as AFAIK NV don't have anything faster coming out at the £140 mark for a while. In fact I think there are very few stop gap cards that get released (maybe the 7800GTX 512 and some dual-gpu solutions), it's really a question of people buying their chosen card now, or choosing to wait.

I'd agree with that, it's really more of an update than a stop-gap. If anything the 9800 GTX was more of a stopgap than the 9800 GTX+, i.e. whilst they got GT200 ready (possibly to prevent criticisms of them missing their update schedule).
 
They perform similarly to the 4850, but are more expensive, even in USD - $229 for the 9800 GTX+, $199 for the 4850, nVidia are positioning the 9800 GTX at the same price point as the 4850.

There a little quicker, but not by much, It's basically 9800GTX+>HD4850>9800GTX, reviews show the 9800GTX+ wins more then it loses. As for it running hot, thats just more bullcrap, it runs as hot as the 9800GTX which isnt very hot at all.
 
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