Households which download illegally to have speeds reduced

Lysander said:
I hear this argument time and time again. As I said on another site:

Buying merchandise is good because the bands get the money directly from the sales, but it doesn't help the label in any way. The label is the one that has invested in the band. If no-one is buying the CDs then it's very likely the label will drop the band from its roster. And then all that promotion, distribution, all those recording advances - everything - will have gone because the CDs haven't been bought. If you really want to help the bands you love - support them AND their label. Buying CDs is the very best way to support the band since the band will earn money off the CD you have bought AND the label will be more willing to invest in that band for future albums.

Also, remember that buying a concert ticket is no guarantee that the band will get any money from your ticket sale. Gig promoters normally have to break even before the band gets any extra money from the ticket sales, and even after break even it's purely dependant on the band's arrangement with the venue or promoter. Booking bands for gigs can be a gamble for both band and promoter and it's very common for both to be out of pocket as a result.
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People who download music illegally weren't going to buy it anyway. If they genuinely liked the band enough to support it then they would have bought the music one way or another.
 
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z0mbi3 said:
People who download music weren't going to buy it anyway. If they genuinely liked the band enough to support it then they would have bought the music one way or another.
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That's a load of tosh, some of the bands I listen to I love the music of, I'm still not going to fork out for it when I can get it for free though.
 
@james.miller - they do unless there's a good alternative. For example whilst Valve's games are experiencing a 10% growth rate through retail channels they're seeing a 100% growth rate through Steam - people can download the games for free off of a torrent website, but choose to use Steam because of its added benefits.

Another example would be itunes which will soon be the single largest music seller in the US (depending on how you play with the figures). It offers music online that's also available free via torrents, yet has experienced substantial success.

The new batman film was available on torrents the day after its premiere, yet experienced a massive opening weekend in the US.

People will get something for free if they can't see any added benefit from paying for it. Adding that added benefit requires a change in business thinking not legislation.
 
z0mbi3 said:
People who download music weren't going to buy it anyway. If they genuinely liked the band enough to support it then they would have bought the music.
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Precisely. It's all just excuses.

DavieCramb01 said:
how come mcfly can give there music away free with the paper then?
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Their label will take a cut from every paper sold. If they run their own label, the money will go directly to them.
 
What a surprise, something like this is announced and the first thing some start thinking/boasting about is how they can avoid it.

Unfortunately, it's people behaving in that way that gives the state the excuse it needs to track and punish everyone.

I really appreciate you giving the state this extra opportunity for control, no really I do.
 
I honestly cant remember last time i bought a DVD, last game i bought was BF2 about 4 years ago and last album i bought was "tupacs 10th anniversary".

I cant understand why people would pay for something when they could get it for free so easily. See it as what money you pay in taxes, you get that back from the internet :)
 
z0mbi3 said:
People who download music illegally weren't going to buy it anyway. If they genuinely liked the band enough to support it then they would have bought the music one way or another.
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thats interesting. makes makes you say, for instance, that >I< wouldnt download an album and sitll go and buy it. Or, download an album but pay to go and see them in concert, just for example. i could spend £12 on a cd and they might see £3 of that. or, i could i could go see them and they'd make a shed load more cash from me. you know, just for instance.
 
Just going to quote myself as clearly nobody read it. There is firm evidence, supported by the Canadian government and Birbeck College, University of London, that internet piracy increases sales of CDs:
fini said:
Firstly internet piracy grows the music industry - 'the effect of one additional P2P download per month is to increase music purchasing by 0.44 CDs per year’.
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With all the bandwidth on demand tv is going to start using the ISPs need to wise up and start putting their efforts into providing faster internet rather than trying to throttle people and weed out pirates.
 
fini said:
Just going to quote myself as clearly nobody read it. There is firm evidence, supported by the Canadian government and Birbeck College, University of London, that internet piracy increases sales of CDs:
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I'm not disputing it, but do you have a link to the paper/study/article this came from?
 
The thing with me is that if I really like something I'll buy it. Odds are the stuff I really like I've already paid for at some stage already (e.g classics like Queen and Bob Marley :)).

If I were to download new music it would only be the equivalent of hearing it on the radio. If it were to just sit on my hdd and only get listened to rarely then it would have been a waste had I actually bought it. If I couldn't download it then I definitley wouldn't buy it.

Then again I suppose the current situation applies to people who religiously download instead of paying for things they normally would have.

While we're at it why don't we ban the sale of second hand music? The labels and the bands don't get any money out of ditributing their music that way either.
 
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james.miller said:
think what? that they'd make more money from me if i spent £50 buying tickets and more on merch while i was there?
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See here. This'll just end up going round in circles.

fini said:
Firstly internet piracy grows the music industry - 'the effect of one additional P2P download per month is to increase music purchasing by 0.44 CDs per year’.
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Absolute balls. CD sales are at an all-time low. Labels are shutting down. Scores of CD shops have been forced to close. The industry is in panic.
 
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