My XJR vs 335d (holy ****)

Born_2_Kill_83 · 25 Jul 2008 at 22:58

Had a little play with a BMW 335D on an 57-Reg tonight and my god was it quick.

Is this really what the future for diesels beholds.

Not sure what the specs are for this car, it could have been an "M" series not to sure as I dont pay much attention to BMW's course their boring. But with the letter "d" on the back this car was far from boring.

Or it could have been the SE with stupid amounts of torque as it wasnt till I was hitting 5000RPM each time I was catching him, before that there was nothing in it.

To be fair to the driver I think I knew the road better than him as I used to drive it to work and back for 6 months a couple of years ago.

But a 4.0 V8 supercharged Jag only being able to pull 2/3 of car lengths away from a 335d (40-100mph) is certainly an achievement for BMW. It would have killed my V6 X-type for sure, Insane!

PMKeates · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:02

Decent semi-automatic gearbox, good handling, plenty of grip, 286hp and a tractor's worth of torque. It's no real surprise you didn't leave it for dust at that speed!

loltim · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:04

They're fast. I've had a play with one too, it was inching away from me and I was driving pretty hard in a Civic-R.

Dandle · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:06

I had a blast in my 530d against a super V8 jag(similar or same engine as the xjr im not sure) about 2 weeks ago. We started from lights on a dual carriageway and went around a sharpish corner at about 20mph then both put our feet to the floor and there was nothing in it until about 75 then he started pulling very slightly on me.

zeppelin101 · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:09

They sound pretty good for a diesel as well

Born_2_Kill_83 · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:13

Dandle said:
I had a blast in my 530d against a super V8 jag(similar or same engine as the xjr im not sure) about 2 weeks ago. We started from lights on a dual carriageway and went around a sharpish corner at about 20mph then both put our feet to the floor and there was nothing in it until about 75 then he started pulling very slightly on me.

530d????? Comeon I think he would have left you for dead if he was trying dont you? :rolleyes:

Dandle · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:17

Loowi_ashley said:
530d????? Comeon I think he would have left you for dead if he was trying dont you?

He was trying alright and there was nothing in it until 75+. From a standing start he'd would have caned me but rolling from 20mph ish he didnt. I was really supprised when it went past and i saw the Super V8 badge on the back.

Born_2_Kill_83 · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:20

Dandle said:
Super V8 badge on the back.

Does any-one else know of a jag that says Supercharged V8 on the rear? course I dont, I think you got yourself a 4.0 V8 Sovereign N/A (290BPH - which isnt bad if what you and your 530d are saying is correct) and a chap that buys badges of ebay

[TW]Fox · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:25

It doesn't matter whether its an M Sport or an SE as the performance is identical. They are just trim levels.

And as for Jags with Super on the back - Daimler?

Dandle · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:29

Loowi_ashley said:
Does any-one else know of a jag that says Supercharged V8 on the rear? course I dont, I think you got yourself a 4.0 V8 Sovereign N/A (290BPH - which isnt bad if what you and your 530d are saying is correct) and a chap that buys badges of ebay

The super V8 is the luxury version where the XJR was the sporty version of the XJ. Im only telling you what happened no need to take offense. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/51860/jaguar_xj_super_v8.html

[TW]Fox · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:30

Loowi loves his Jags so much he's been trying to sell both for months now

Born_2_Kill_83 · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:32

[TW]Fox;12160526 said:
It doesn't matter whether its an M Sport or an SE as the performance is identical. They are just trim levels.

And as for Jags with Super on the back - Daimler?

Ah yes I forgot with my limited BMW knowlegde its the 335i that has over 300BHP.

The new Jag XJ (2003-) sometimes has a "Super V8" badge on the rear (400BHP+), however this would leave my XJR standing nevermind a 530d

Dandle · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:32

I think they are fantastic too my mate has an XJR and its lovely. The best bit about them now though is the price you can pick them up for. Looking in the trader earlier today there are a few as low as £2500 and a lot under the £4k mark, makes them unknown bargain in my eyes.

Born_2_Kill_83 · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:33

Dandle said:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/51860/jaguar_xj_super_v8.html

Beat me to it ...

Born_2_Kill_83 · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:35

[TW]Fox;12160551 said:
Loowi loves his Jags so much he's been trying to sell both for months now

You stand corrected just the mondeo for months. The XJR on autotrader was a moment of insanity while I wanted a Cerbera (best move I didnt make)

[TW]Fox · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:36

I'm glad you saw sense

Born_2_Kill_83 · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:37

Dandle said:
The super V8 is the luxury version where the XJR was the sporty version of the XJ. Im only telling you what happened no need to take offense. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/51860/jaguar_xj_super_v8.html

No offence taken, the sport version of the XJ was the XJ sport, the XJR had a different engine, suspension (CATS), and brakes (still not good enough though)

Wicksta · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:38

Loowi_ashley said:
Does any-one else know of a jag that says Supercharged V8 on the rear? course I dont,

He said "Super V8" not "Supercharged V8".

Dandle · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:41

Actually after looking at the Daimler Super V8 it probably was one of these. The car didn't look as new as a 2003 onward car.

Born_2_Kill_83 · 25 Jul 2008 at 23:43

Dandle said:
Actually after looking at the Daimler Super V8 it probably was one of these. The car didn't look as new as a 2003 onward car.

So you mean the same shape as mine 1997-2003 372BHP or older still?