Are Fords American?

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Now this might seem like a stupid question, but wait. The huge amount of negativity surrounding American cars on here is hard to miss. Bar the Mustang (once tweaked) nothing else from the states is liked. That opens the question, do we view fords as a European car? The Mondeo is massively pimped on here and the Focus ST is well recieved, but are they American or not?
 
Ford as a company are american but in the main, mondeo and focus etc are all built for the European market so would be european cars in many peoples eyes.
 
Ford of Europe, Ford of America and Ford of Australia are all quite different divisions of the brand.
 
My old Ford cougar was designed by a german,built in Flat Rock Michigan by Mercury then shipped back to German to be eurofied and sold in the UK by Ford.
 
Don't think the capri made it anywhere else, so not all of Ford is American.

Think of it as GM, but they don't change the name of the company in every part of the world.
 
Don't think the capri made it anywhere else, so not all of Ford is American.

Think of it as GM, but they don't change the name of the company in every part of the world.

Capri made it to the States, Seff Efrikkka and Australia...

I'd break Ford down as:

US
UK
Germany
South Africa
South America
Australia

*n
 
They are an american brand, but the ones here are designed by europeans for the european market.
 
To be fair Ford was very much a UK brand over here that's why they had a dominant market share in the dim and distant past , we had many UK plants, then they went and closed them down,

Did it started with the fiesta to Spain ? or did it start to happen before that, i cant remember now.

The last Ford's to be be built here are the Transits but i think they are on the move too
 
Now this might seem like a stupid question, but wait. The huge amount of negativity surrounding American cars on here is hard to miss. Bar the Mustang (once tweaked) nothing else from the states is liked.

JRS and Lashout_UK maintain the balance.

"Bar the Mustang (once tweaked) nothing else from the states is liked."

ZR1
Z06
Ford GT
Viper
CTS-V

etc...and that is ignoring all the past posts on older American cars, modified or not.
 
The Mondeo was originally set out to be a global car and able to be sold in any Ford market. It had Ford employees from all over the world working on it. It did quite well in most markets but Ford did a few minor tweaks for each market. Very popular over here and many other European countries. It's called a Contour state-side. I have seen a UK plate Mondeo Mk2 with a Contour badge on the back before, was a company owned, stickered up vehicle so no idea what that was about.
 
Ford America are taking on more European cars soon arent they? Probably something to do with posting an $8.5 billion loss in the last quarter whereas Ford Europe posted profits!
 
Ford Motor is set into a couple of different divisions, not counting sales companies, the major areas are Ford of the Americas, Ford of Europe, Ford Australia, and Ford Asia Pacific (however the last to are showing signs of becoming one, we still think of them as seperate). The majority of engineering and R&D occurs in Europe and in the USA, vehicles for other markets, i.e. China etc are still engineered in Europe, however manufacturing is obviously in the market where it is sold.

Ford overall is obviously a US brand and we always have to conform to what they want, no matter how profitable and stable FoE is, Ford NA will always have the last say.

A LOT of engineering resources are shared between the US and Europe, (i.e. they do engineer things for us and vice versa). Over the past 5 years, quite a few of our cheif designers have gone to FNA (i.e. J Mays, Peter Horbury etc), and our expertise on the European market is used extensively in their new products. I.E. the chap who headed the chassis and handling of the mondeo and focus, went over to help on the mustang, he also helped with astons etc.

The new ethos is to now share everything ('One Ford'...they call it :( ), create vehicles to be sold globally as one, so in about 10 years time you couldnt really say 'thats an american ford' etc. I'm not sure how this will hold in Ford Australia as they seem to be quite a seperate market to the US and Europe, however they do use a lot of our cars and the Mondeo has just been relaunched there.

The only thing which is happening now which worries me is the European cars going to the US market, it worries me in the fact of the strain which will be put on FoE on this transition as it isnt a simple case of just handing them blueprints.

I hope that cleared up some stuff, if you have any questions let me know.
 
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Ford America are taking on more European cars soon arent they? Probably something to do with posting an $8.5 billion loss in the last quarter whereas Ford Europe posted profits!

Yes the company as a whole lost $8.5bn last quarter, but its not operating losses, its a write down of assets, just like Vodafone's ~£20bn 'loss' last year. Yes Ford NA are aggressively restructuring, and it needs it, however I just need to add that the ~$9bn loss is slightly out of scope when you think about it and doesnt affect the company as much as you may think. Unlike GM we have a lot of Cash.

The Fiesta will be there by 2010, and soon after so will the Focus, and another car which hasnt been announced (possibly C/S-Max).
 
Are they tring to push the Diesel's over there?

As far as I am aware, there will be some sort of push for diesel but all signs point towards the Ecoboost gasoline/petrol style engines (i.e. turbo/supercharger) on a lower capacity engine.
 
The reasons I don't like american cars is they're built for lazy people.
Automatic, light steering, soft suspension to soak up the bumps and big heavy to fit the big americans in. With a heavy guzzling block up front because they don't need fuel economy or efficiency as it's so cheap for petrol over there.

In return you'll get a big lazy car which cant corner to save it's life. With lifeless steering, a lot of americas roads are straight anyway.

The only redeeming feature is looks. You can get some good looking brutes.
 
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