UK Bin Crimes To Carry Heavier Penalty Than Theft

[milkinc13]

nope it'll mean you get a fine for an overflowing bin

 

[Tom2k8]

my neighbours bins lid is always open because they overfil there bins

How can i get them fined?

By logging off these forums and then putting your self in it.

 

[Tefal]

How do those green point things work? I see posters for them up but can't quite figure it out.

You re-use 4 bags of your own, and you get 4 points on a god forsaken different type of club card?

They just regular points, my dad got free entry into all the national heritage places for him and me mum a while back. You can get free entry to zoos etc, or just redeem them for money iirc.

 

[iBot]

By logging off these forums and then putting your self in it.

 

[postmanfw]

8 of us in our house and 1 wheelie bin

Not sure if its the same for your area but here we are allowed an extra bin if there are 6 or more in the house.

 

[Cobertizo]

Look at the carrier bag situation, Marks and Spencer now let you BUY a bag that "Lasts for life" doesn't that fly in the face of the reason why carrier bags are bad?

Erm. No. If you try using a normal carrier bag over and over, it will fall apart quickly. And then it will end up in a landfill, degrading very very slowly. A "bag for life" type thing will last much longer before needing to be replaced. So you should end up with fewer bags in landfill. Quite apart from the fact that you can normally get way more in the long-life bags without worrying about them breaking on your way home...

I can see why overfilling / loose black bags may be so undesirable, but I don't understand why fining people is really going to change that much. By all means force them to buy an extra wheelie bin (possibly at an inflated price, to retain some level of deterrent), or consider extra collections (if the problem is widespread enough to justify this - and I guess there will be a knock-on effect on council tax in those areas), but just a fine? I doubt that's going to encourage much more than people fly tipping / using others' bins.

 

[Slinwagh]

None of these crazy laws / fines deal with the problem, the problem of excess packaging!!!!!!!!

Surely not generating the excess in the first place is more efficient than having to recycle it!!!!!

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I must admit you're the only person on these forums I have ever clicked on the name and go to 'See All Posts by' because I have to read what crap you post.

 

[Mr.Clark]

How is it suddenly complicated to have rubbish collected?

Bacause binmen are lazy wasters.

 

[Tefal]

The carrier bags are biodegradable now, who really gives a crap if there is a bit of plastic buried under a hill for 50 or so years till it turns to soil?

Hell we even make electricity from the methane we get from the land fills.

 

[Glaucus]

Rather than punishing us, why not make it easier to recycle and actuall stanadise it accross the country.

I mean my parents get a green wheelie bin, you can put cardboard and garden waste in. Yet we get a black box for cardboard which just blows all over the street and makes a mess.

I haven't seen any which collect plastic bottles.

Also why not reduce wheelie bin size by 50% and collect every week, as *** streets stink of rotting rubbish.

 

[Cobertizo]

None of these crazy laws / fines deal with the problem, the problem of excess packaging!!!!!!!!

True. Interestingly there is relatively recent legislation that's meant to deal with this. Though clearly it isn't doing much.
http://www.lga.gov.uk/lga/core/page.do?pageId=41588

I guess that in theory we could all be trying to do our bit to minimise packaging, rather than just relying on legislation, for example by buying meat from butchers / supermarket meat counters to avoid all the plastic trays they use for pre-packaged meat. I can't claim that I make the effort to do that though...

 

[[TW]Fox]

I applaud this. Once I drove down a street and somebody had placed a bin out early. It was harrowing and had a real effect on me. More so than shoplifting.

 

[Slinwagh]

I applaud this. Once I drove down a street and somebody had placed a bin out early. It was harrowing and had a real effect on me. More so than shoplifting.

Did a you drive over a dirty piece of kitchen towel?

 

[[TW]Fox]

No, I can only assume the threat of such a fine had correctly caused the residents to excercise care when deciding how much kitchen towel to use.

 

[Greenlizard0]

They just regular points, my dad got free entry into all the national heritage places for him and me mum a while back. You can get free entry to zoos etc, or just redeem them for money iirc.

Hmm free zoo entries, I do like the sound of that.

 

[Tefal]

None of these crazy laws / fines deal with the problem, the problem of excess packaging!!!!!!!!

Surely not generating the excess in the first place is more efficient than having to recycle it!!!!!

tbh I'd rather nicely wrapped food and the old bin service back, than poorly wrapped food, crappy bin service the smell of rotting garbage waiting for pick up, retarded fines.

You know considering i live fairly close to a big land fill, they arn't really bad, we have a nice forest/hill/park on the last one, and a small methane burning turbine running off the gas, and we will on the current one when it's full.

Much better than a giant hole left over from the clay mining.

 

[Slinwagh]

No, I can only assume the threat of such a fine had correctly caused the residents to excercise care when deciding how much kitchen towel to use.

Would it be an issue if it was Tesco "Finest" kitchen roll?

 

[Indy500]

Hmm.

Mr Corkhill was taken to court by Copeland council in Cumbria after he failed to pay a £110 on-the-spot fine.

The father of four was ordered to pay a £210 fine, equal to his week's wages, plus a £15 surcharge to help 'victims of violence', and given a record.

By contrast, shoplifters and drunks are given £80 fines, which often do not appear on their criminal record and which frequently go unpaid.

Magistrates and lawyers frequently claim that criminals are given on-the-spot fines by police anxious to hit crime clear-up targets and escape paperwork.

In fact they should be brought to court for more severe punishment. Last year prolific thief Anthony Hickingbotham ran up nine £80 on-the-spot fines for shoplifting and other criminal offences - none of which he paid - before finally being brought before a court in Hull.

The judge was not told about the unpaid fines and sent Hickingbotham on a drug treatment course.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Magistrates and lawyers frequently claim that criminals are given on-the-spot fines by police anxious to hit crime clear-up targets and escape paperwork.

Thats the idea. For a simple shoplifting under £200 with goods recovered and under £200 of criminal damage, the FPN was introduced to simplify the process, cut out the court side of things ( saving taxpayers money ) and issuing a fine which is all they would get at court anyway.

Methinks the lawyers are twisting because they miss out on the legal aid.

FPNs do exactly what they say on the tin.