Canon 50D

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This info was on the canon china website, before it got removed, expect an anouncement anytime soon with maybe the new 5d.

Looks a good spec, shame no 8fps to match it with the D300.

Suppose canon had to go from there 18 month cycle to get some sales back.

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EOS 50D Specs:

Sensor: 1.6x crop CMOS
Proc: DIGIV IV
MP: 15.1MP
LCD: 3" VGA LCD
VF: 95% viewfinder .97 magnification
AF: 9 point af
ISO: 100-3200 (Expansion to 6400 & 12800)
FPS: 6.3/3fps
Buffer: 16 RAW - 60 JPG - 10 RAW+JPG
Feature: Dust Reduction
Feature: Auto Brightness Processing
Feature: Microadjustment
Feature: Face Recognition AF
Feature: Auto CA correction
Feature: HDMI Output
 
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Smaller Buffer?
Lower Burst Rate?
Same limited AF points?

Doesn't make sense to me, it'd be going backwards from my 40D :/

15.1 mp though, bigger file size, eats into the buffer, i know what your saying though.

Thought the burst rate was same 6.5 (40d) 6.3 (50d) most people say the 40d manages 6 regardless of what canon say.


I own a 40d as well :)
 
5D seems NICE

50D seems, well pointless... there is a thread on POTN about the 40D not having enough AF points compared to a Nikon and they do have a point really.

Canon need to pull their finger out of their backside, 40D + 100-400... mmmm
 
EOS 50D Specs:

Sensor: 1.6x crop CMOS
Proc: DIGIV IV
MP: 15.1MP
LCD: 3" VGA LCD
VF: 95% viewfinder .97 magnification
AF: 9 point af
ISO: 100-3200 (Expansion to 6400 & 12800)
FPS: 6.3/3fps
Buffer: 16 RAW - 60 JPG - 10 RAW+JPG
Feature: Dust Reduction
Feature: Auto Brightness Processing
Feature: Microadjustment
Feature: Face Recognition AF
Feature: Auto CA correction
Feature: HDMI Output

That can't be right?! That is worse than the 40D.


Sensor: 1.6x crop CMOS
Proc: DIGIV III
MP: 12.2MP
AF: 11 point af
FPS: 6fps (8fps with a grip)

That spec looks better than the one above but it's still a poor effort imho.

Starting to lose patience with Canon!
 
Hmmm quite interesting, from fred miranda forums, he seems to know his stuff:

I refer to the now locked thread titled "Canon 50D Leaked on China Site" (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/679656 )and the debate over the specs concern over higher MP etc... I can't resist (to you know who you are - I'm sorry!!!)...

Canon is waking up. They are aware of what Sony and Nikon are going to release (have been for some while) and are on an active fightback program. The loss of DSLR market share starting 18 months or so woke up Canon about 12 months ago. The new R&D has taken a while. There are new leaders in the Canon DLSR area, and a new pace of change. Not as fast as some would like. But this year and next year, far faster than many of the doomsayers on this and other forums imagine.

There is a 5D replacement coming soon. And other FF soon. For a while now Canon is shortening is DSLR cycles too. The ID III and IDs III will not have the usual 1D three year lifecycle. And in the short term, Canon has the flexibility to reprice the 1Ds III to anything it likes down to as little as $1000 more than the 1D III. Gives them some breathing space (in the same way they did with the 5D pricing down towards the D300 when the D3 came out.)

DIGIC IV is real and part of Canons DSLR futures. It has the 2 to 1 and 4 to 1 pixel binning and next generation noise reduction capabilities. Note the sRAW1 and sRAW2 specs. sRAW1 with a 15.1mp sensor creates great 7.6mp images with something like a 2 stop noise advantage over the 30D at 8mp. They can take a 15.1mp sensor and ISO 12800 and produce stunning images in sRAW2. You can do your own maths about a 21mp (or so) FF sensor and DIGIC IV.

DIGC IV also has a HD movie mode waiting in the wings - don’t laugh about this being a toy you can take newspaper print quality images off any frame, just like the RED cameras.

Canon have been working on 100% microlens, low voltage low noise sensors capable of native ISO 12800. They suffer from some quantisation noise at smaller pixel sizes (limited by physics) but this is fixed by pixel binning to create virtual larger pixels when you need the really high ISOs. The 50D has equivalent per pixel noise to the 40D – less when looked at on a noise per frame perspective. There are some real advances to be obtained yet in sensor design.

DIGIC V is already in engineering design for even faster image handling. Imagine a future with a full frame 50mp sensor with virtually no noise at up to ISO 800 (awesome for studio work). Imagine the same sensor with sRAW1 and 25mp and ISO performance and 3200 better than the current 1Ds III… or 5D. And sRAW2 at 12.5mp and ISO 12800 performance that looks like today’s 5D at 3200. Or even an 8 to 1 sRAW3. Candlelight shooting anyone!

Yes it would be nice to have pro-AF and more (there’s some features for the 60D and beyond). But the 50D camera is a big step forward. The cross type AF points lock and track really well. And ultimately there will always be features in the top of the line cameras that are not in the mid series.

And… Nikon has its D90 and 25Mp in the D3 style body and 25MP in a D700 like body cameras coming… Sony has two 25 Mp cameras planned and is also working on their own sensors up to 50Mp and openly talking to others about it. Canon is not doing this for altruism. Canon has planned its cameras to slot in between (and in some cases ahead) of Nikons in terms of features and price and has put what it considers to be some highly desirable features in each camera model to catch aspirational buyers.

Oh, and Nikon has a massive computer imaging design based lens program, with the new 12-24 F2.8 and 24-70 F2.8 being good examples. It is part of its program of targeting the professional market with a series of market leading lenses covering all the main focus ranges (sadly not too many primes planned yet). There are a slew of new Nikon lenses coming over the next couple of year…. So… Canon (a little slower than with this year’s bodies) is starting to focus on lens replacements and upgrades. Moving away from its previous more hand crafted design to the sophisticated computer controlled light modelling design techniques. Expect 2009 and 2010 to be very interesting lens wise… (A number of the lenses are being redone to get higher resolutions so as to not be embarrassed when FF sensors reach 50mp)

So, knock the specs if you want… Believe me or not if you want. The resolution, the noise the convenience features of the new 50D will speak for themselves when it is announced. Some will not be happy, wanting their 1D III specs for 1/3 the price… (just wait a couple of years). Even I would like (not expect, but like) D300 like AF but hey that would beat the 1D III). And (from what I know) the new 5D replacement, along with, later new FF, are also deeply impressive cameras carefully targeted knowing the specs of the new Nikon and Sony FF. They are far from the ‘warmed up” 40Ds that we would have had if the 5D replacement had have come out last year.

I know I’ll be replacing my 40D and 5D (instead of just my 5D), my only quandary is wither two new FF or a 50D and a 5D replacement… And, despite the protests from some of you – so will many of those on this forum with 5D or 20D/30D etc. Certainly IMO the new cameras achieve Canon’s objective of taking away any reason to move to Nikon for most people with any significant investment in Canon glass, and being extremely competitive price wise for new buyers. Could they be better (of course always). Will some people prefer a Nikon or Sony model for valid reasons for them (of course !). Will there be features that people will fight to the death that should have been added or should not have been added (you bet that’s what happens on internet forums). Feature differentiation at work just as in most markets. We are in for an amazing ride over the next 2 to 3 years as Canon, Nikon and Sony 'slug it out' adding features and pushing the limits of physics in some cases. Buy the largest CF or SD cards you can if you want to enjoy the megapixel and speed ride we will be on!
 
Interesting post. I wasn't aware of sRAW1 or 2. He does pick up an issue I have with Canon at the moment - auto focus! I'm not expecting pro level AF but the AF on the mid level camera are seriously overdue a reworking.
 
I fear this is going to turn photography into a computer style market, where bodies become obsolete after 6 months and people start thinking that they can't take photos on old kit. And its all they ever talk about..

The cameras we have now all take stunning images, how much better do we need to make things...? Do we need 50MP sensors? do we need insane frame rates? do we need ISO 983745978389467983?

The next few years are going to be mental, 3-4 new bodies a year coming out...
 
The cameras we have now all take stunning images, how much better do we need to make things...? Do we need 50MP sensors? do we need insane frame rates? do we need ISO 983745978389467983?


higher iso is always nice and i think to achieve clean results requires a larger mp sensor , at least in the near future it will


wont be getting a 50d but im hoping the next 5d will be at least 5fps, 3" screen, native iso 6400 expandable to 12800, larger dynamic range , micro lens adjustment, better autofocus ,sensor cleaning & weather protection
 
translate this

http://www.canon.icp.dog-cr.jp/products/camera/eos/50d/index.html

EOS 50D, to satisfy the high-end numerical code list counter-camera user to live to the high picture archery target demand. Please heartily understand condenses the Canon unique technology and the rich experience, has the remarkable expressive force high fine image. Uses the Canon independent development production the CMOS image sensor, has approximately 15,100,000 effective picture element Gao Huazhi. The high sensitivity luminosity high clear beautiful image, the nature reappearance is absorbed the object the detail. Provides the new generation DIGIC 4 digit phantom processor, brings exquisitely, the lifelike color performance! The DIGIC technical performance further enhances. Is absorbed from the detail faithful reappearance the object the tone, the shadow. The lens built-in against shake the function, reduces blurring which, because the hand shakes creates, brings the more photography pleasure! Against hand shakes easily, to focus, lays out satisfaction picture EOS synthesis dust removal system, further reduces the dust to the phantom the influence. Unique dust removal countermeasure. On the effective reduced sensor the dust adsorption with accumulates.

Provides approximately 15,100,000 effective picture element APS-C size CMOS the image sensor, the lens focal distance conversion ratio approximately is 1.6. 22.3×14.9 millimeter CMOS size, single picture element size approximately for 4.7μm, not can only present the splendid phantom which exquisitely the lens catch, may realize the beckoning background empty effect.



The performance remarkable DIGIC 4 digit phantom processor brings ISO100~ISO3200 the superelevation photosensitiveness commonly used establishment scope, when night photography may also expand to ISO6400 and 12800. At the same time, has the splendid signal-to-noise ratio, has suppressed when largely the high sensitivity luminosity particularly dark spot noise spot (C.Fn II-2), as well as when long time to make public photography produces noise spot (C.Fn II-1). May divide 4 scales according to the noise reduction degree (standard/weak/strong/closure) to carry on the establishment, “strong” outside three establishments, will not reduce the camera to pat the performance.


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Uses the brand-new 920,000 VGA3.0 inch liquid crystal monitoring device, suppresses the reflection, even if may also with ease glance over under the bright optical fiber. In photography process, but direct-viewing adjusts the photography establishment on the liquid crystal monitoring device, simple convenient. The lens built-in against shake the function, reduces blurring which, because the hand shakes creates, brings the more photography pleasure! Carries on the photography intuitively through the liquid crystal monitoring device “the real time display photography” the function.
 
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so ISO 1600 looks ace on that scooby huh

The thing is.
Is that site even legit?
If those were the specs of the 50D then I feel let down by canon. They haven't even competed with the in camera horizon function nikon have just to name one thing.

oh and on that link

the 50D offers a 100% viewfinder coverage and the new 5D offers 96%! hmmmm I think they have that the wrong way around!

Also
6.3fps or 8 with a grip.. why 8 with a grip? Stupid rumors!


I stopped reading after I read this

"24-70mm f/2.8L IS bundled with both DSLRs"
Gonna make the camera a little pricy isnt it?
 
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so ISO 1600 looks ace on that scooby huh

The thing is.
Is that site even legit?
If those were the specs of the 50D then I feel let down by canon. They haven't even competed with the in camera horizon function nikon have just to name one thing.

oh and on that link

the 50D offers a 100% viewfinder coverage and the new 5D offers 96%! hmmmm I think they have that the wrong way around!

Also
6.3fps or 8 with a grip.. why 8 with a grip? Stupid rumors!


I stopped reading after I read this

"24-70mm f/2.8L IS bundled with both DSLRs"
Gonna make the camera a little pricy isnt it?


if those specs are true then its an upgrade akin to the 20d - 30d
more of a refresh than an upgrade

the faster fps with grip thing is probably true, im sure another camera has it, the d700 ?
 
I think i'll be probably getting the 50D.

I missed the 40D as i already have a 30D, hopefully the price will be good!

Hoping the final details are good!
 
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