Anyone with a 48xx and Vista 64?

[Final8y]

Hello mmj_uk, oh right, I see. Maybe it could be the drivers then but surely if there was a fundamental problem with the drivers, everyone would be experiencing a similar problem?

I have tried the Catalyst 8.6, 8.7 and 8.8 set of drivers but still no change between either versions.



I still experience the same problem even with the Fan turned up quite high. The temperatures never go beyond around 65 degrees.

This is so annoying.

Seem like the card is faulty & i would send it back.

 

[Legionaire68]

I'm using Vista 64 and running mine at the max overclock Overdrive will allow 790, 1100 and it runs fine with my monitor and t.v as cloned screens. The only problem was when I plugged in the Dvi/HDMI cable for telly first time the p.c rebooted but fine after, can add and remove as much as I like now. Like HD 4870 pretty quiet but we'll see how long it lasts, its my third card in 8 months!!

 

[Fire Wizard]

Seem like the card is faulty & i would send it back.

Hello Final8y, unfortunately it would seem that the actual graphics card is at fault here as you have said. I would also just like a second opinion about the following,

Every time I play Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare multiplayer, after a while I receive the "Display driver stopped responding" message. I then have a little go at playing Bioshock and I must have played it for around 30 - 45 minutes and didn't have any problems what so ever. I then put Call Of Duty 4 back on and after around 30 minutes, I get the same message as above.

I then ran 3D Mark 06 and on the very last test, it quits the problem giving me the "Display driver stopped responding" message. I then took the ATI 4870graphics card out and popped in the ATI X1950 and ran 3D Mark 06 and didn't have any problems at all.

Now, taking the above information into account, what would people's first thought be that is causing all of this?

Thanks everyone.

 

[Final8y]

Hello Final8y, unfortunately it would seem that the actual graphics card is at fault here as you have said. I would also just like a second opinion about the following,

Every time I play Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare multiplayer, after a while I receive the "Display driver stopped responding" message. I then have a little go at playing Bioshock and I must have played it for around 30 - 45 minutes and didn't have any problems what so ever. I then put Call Of Duty 4 back on and after around 30 minutes, I get the same message as above.

I then ran 3D Mark 06 and on the very last test, it quits the problem giving me the "Display driver stopped responding" message. I then took the ATI 4870graphics card out and popped in the ATI X1950 and ran 3D Mark 06 and didn't have any problems at all.

Now, taking the above information into account, what would people's first thought be that is causing all of this?

Thanks everyone.

COD4 & GRID are 2 games that take down my pushed to far over clocked cards in no time while other games will play for allot longer or not driver crash at all.

 

[mmj_uk]

Hello mmj_uk, oh right, I see. Maybe it could be the drivers then but surely if there was a fundamental problem with the drivers, everyone would be experiencing a similar problem?

Not really we've seen driver bugs so many times in the past that affect some but not others.

COD4 & GRID are 2 games that take down my pushed to far over clocked cards in no time while other games will play for allot longer or not driver crash at all.

Yeah it's worth looking into this too Fire Wizard, if you're overclocking CPU/memory etc. then it's likely the 4870 is generating a lot more heat in your case than the X1950 and causing your other overclocked components to be less stable.

If you're at stock with everything and it's still failing you're best off just RMA'ing it, whether it's faulty hardware or dodgy drivers as far as you're concerned you've bought something that's not fit for purpose (ie. playing games).

 

[marc2003]

I then change my Corsair HX 520W power supply unit to my brand new Corsair HX620W just in case the power supply was faulty but I still experienced the same problems.

you doubted the psu? i realise there have been a few corsair failures recently but never heard of it not being enough to power any single card.

i'd be inclined to think it's faulty gpu hardware. seriously doubt it's a driver issue otherwise the problem would be a lot more widespread.

 

[Fire Wizard]

COD4 & GRID are 2 games that take down my pushed to far over clocked cards in no time while other games will play for allot longer or not driver crash at all.

Hello Final8y, the ATI 4870 is running at stock speeds so as you already know, it shouldn't really crash in any game I am playing at that given time.

Not really we've seen driver bugs so many times in the past that affect some but not others.

Hello mmj_uk, ah yes, I guess you are right.

Yeah it's worth looking into this too Fire Wizard, if you're overclocking CPU/memory etc. then it's likely the 4870 is generating a lot more heat in your case than the X1950 and causing your other overclocked components to be less stable.

My entire system is running at stock speeds.

If you're at stock with everything and it's still failing you're best off just RMA'ing it, whether it's faulty hardware or dodgy drivers as far as you're concerned you've bought something that's not fit for purpose (ie. playing games).

Well, I have sent Overclockers an RMA enquiry, just waiting for them to reply which won't be until Monday now unfortunately.

you doubted the psu? i realise there have been a few corsair failures recently but never heard of it not being enough to power any single card.

Hello marc2003, hehehe, I just wanted to double check I didn't have a faulty power supply unit. The Corsair HX 520W is more than enough for the system that I have, I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't faulty which could be causing the problems that I am experiencing.

i'd be inclined to think it's faulty gpu hardware. seriously doubt it's a driver issue otherwise the problem would be a lot more widespread.

Indeed.

I have the Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 which has the newer PCI-Express 2.0 interface, is it possible that it could be in any way damaged electronically which is causing my problems? Thus the reason why the ATI X1950XT is working fine is because it's running under the PCI-Express 1.0/1 interface or doesn't it quite work like that?

I have also just ran 3D Mark 06 again using the ATI 4870 with no problems at all.

Thanks for all of your help everyone.

 

[chowks]

Is this problem quite common or rare amongst the 4870 users? Just thinking of buying one to use with vista 64 and this is putting me off slightly....

 

[VortexA1]

It's rare that's why the user has swapped his psu and is now thinking about a possible problem with his motherboard.

 

[DrBombcrater]

I had exactly this problem when I used to run a dual-monitor setup with a 3870 and Vista x64. Drivers would randomly crash both at the desktop and in games. In the end, after months of faffing about, I discovered it was the monitor. Swapped out the primary for a different model and the crashes stopped right away.

 

[MR.B]

Is this problem quite common or rare amongst the 4870 users? Just thinking of buying one to use with vista 64 and this is putting me off slightly....

No it's not rare. And i wish other people would actually read more of this thread before saying otherwise.

Repeated myself so many times... I get it with both 4870 and 4870X2. Tried the X2 in another completely different system and still happens. Only used Vista 64-Bit on both system, so it may just affect Vista. Infact i dont think i've seen anyone with XP have this.
View my original thread post to see the exceedingly long list of everything i've tried to fix this issue.

Then theres this long thread on AMD's own forums. Same problem.

Heres another thread about this problem on TomsHardware.

Theres quite few people that have posted in this thread that get it, i think all have Vista...

None of the Nvidia cards i've tried have had this problem on Vista 64-Bit, which are: 8500GT, 8800GTX, 9800GX2, GTX 260, and GTX 280. Well, my 8800GTX had a similar problem on Vista's launch but Nvidia soon sorted this with a new driver about 2 weeks later.

It does not just affect the 4xxx series, people with the 3xxx series sometimes get it on Vista too. It may affect older series aswell.

It's obviously a driver issue, the fact that ATI hardware seems to works fine on XP would point to this. It's also been around for a very long time, atleast since mid 2007, so dont hold your breath thinking this could be sorted soon.

Hope this has cleared up some of this mess.

 

[Paradiso]

yeah this also happened on the 29xx series. It's been around since Vista basically.

 

[Defiant306]

Well I got Vista 64bit and a 4870x2 this week and Im now back using XP 32bit cause it crashed my whole PC when playing World of warcraft. I tried tons of settings and changing/reinstalling drivers to no avail. I mainly play WoW so until they fix Vista 64bit drivers I wont being using the OS

 

[chowks]

thanks for the info guys. Seems like its pot-luck with these 4870's. One of my friends just bought one for use with vista 64 and he had to return it. The high running temperatures are a bit of a downer as well. Such a shame cos its a great performing card.

Might just buy one and return it if it doesn't work. Or just get the gtx 260 and have that peace of mind.

 

[J.D]

Well I can vouch for one of my closest friends who has two 4870s and Vista x64 with no problems as yet. He did have before installing SP1 but after that, all is fine. If this is just to do with dual screens then he can't replicate that problem due to using one screen. If people are having problems with a single screen then I've seen many reports stating that 4870 and Vista x64 are working fine and I know of first hand about 4870s and Vista 64. So I can't see that being a problem since the 2900s, maybe the dual screen problem but not a single screen.

So I'd do a little research if you have dual screens and are thinking about a 4 series card whilst using Vista x64 (is 32bit affected also?). I can say that the 4 series and a single screen I've seen and played on, using several games on this machine with nothing but impressive performances.

Chowks, ATI Tray Tool has my temps right down. The 4870 runs cooler than my 8800GTX whilst being about the same noise as my GTX @ 100% fan speed (which I ran all the time). If you have dual screens then yes I'd probably take the GTX 260 but if you have a single screen then you have options . Just see what games you play that would reap the most benefit and then choose ATI or Nvidia. As above my m8 has Vista x64 and two 4870s (one screen). No problems at all.

 

[chowks]

Cheers for the advice JD. I've been researching both cards for a long time, and will be using it for a single screen, so I think I probably will buy a 4870, if it doesn't work out I can just return it.
Do you run your 4870 fan at 100%? or was that just the GTX?

 

[J.D]

Cheers for the advice JD. I've been researching both cards for a long time, and will be using it for a single screen, so I think I probably will buy a 4870, if it doesn't work out I can just return it.
Do you run your 4870 fan at 100%? or was that just the GTX?

No. Only my GTX @ 100%. I run the fan on 29% stock and 42% overclocked. At 42% it's a little noisier than my GTX @ 100% but not a lot noisier .

To buy and try is the best option for you. I hope you don't have to send back but if you do you know that the GTX 260 will be a beast also .

 

[Stimpy_7]

Just to let everyone know, i had "display driver not responding" issue as many have experienced. Was previously running 8.7 with CCC, i found that installing just the Display driver fixed this issue. Upon trying 8.8 + CCC (hoping that something might have changed) Exactly the same thing happens, again, uninstalling CCC resolves it.

Very annoying!

Just need a decent program that controls OC and Fan control on vista 64!

 

[J.D]

Just to let everyone know, i had "display driver not responding" issue as many have experienced. Was previously running 8.7 with CCC, i found that installing just the Display driver fixed this issue. Upon trying 8.8 + CCC (hoping that something might have changed) Exactly the same thing happens, again, uninstalling CCC resolves it.

Very annoying!

Just need a decent program that controls OC and Fan control on vista 64!

Try ATI Tray Tools v1.5.8.1260. I'm using this on XP for fan control and overclock and all is well.

http://cid-a50350ea7a969f0c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/attsetup.exe

I got it from here. http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=270486

 

[MR.B]

My X2 seems to have got totally screwed now. Had a massive BSOD crash most probably due to drivers and now immedaitely after i try and run a game the system crashes and restarts. But desktop is fine.
Reinstalling Vista or using different drivers does not help, nor does system all at stock speed. How much do you want to bet when i try my NV card it will be fine (again)...

Fed up of ATI crap. Been up all night reinstalling Vista and everything, which i've done about 4 times now since i went ATI.
First my 4870 goes back due to these joke Vista 64-Bit drivers, and the X2 has the same "display driver stopped responding" problem but way less, i could have lived with it... but now it seems these drivers may have broke the X2 somehow... either way it's not running anything 3D now.
Going back for a refund.

Seriously cannot wait intil NV release there 55nm GTX 280 shrink.