The more I eat,the hungrier I get?

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anant_shah94 said:
I don't deprive myself of food, I'm not muslim but from what I know muslims do eat meat, I'm jain, though not a very strict one because I eat eggs and dairy products. In my eyes I don't think I'm depriving myself of food. I'm proportionally fine, sure I'm a bit short for my age and a bit light for my height, but not everybody is perfect, I know people my age and my height who are overweight. in the summer hols the only real excercise I do is a lot of walking, footie and cricket in the garden and weight training every now and again with very light dumbells. at school though I do lots of excercise, gym 2 or three times a week + rugby football cricket etc, + on average at school due to the siting of the buildings, we walk a few kilometres each day anyway... sorry to wind on :P
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Actually, you're very light for your height, sex and age. Not "a bit light". It may be OK for you, perhaps, as it appears that you are capable of an active life, but you are startlingly light even if your height is taken into account. Nearly everyone of your age and height is heavier than you.

Here is a growth chart showing percentiles for age, height and weight for male people between the ages of 2 and 20 years in the USA.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/growthcharts/set1clinical/cj41l021.pdf

You're outside the range entirely for both height and weight. The bottom lines (one for height, one for weight) are the lowest 5% of people line. You're well below both of them.

This might be acceptable for you. Some people are naturally short. Some people are naturally skinny. Some people grow into their adult size later than others.

Do you know how tall your genetic parents are? That tends to provide a rule of thumb for your own height - people tend to be roughly midway in height between their genetic parents, within a few inches either way. Maybe your parents are short and slightly built, I don't know.

But you are far from the average and it might be a good idea to get some expert medical advice.
 
Angilion said:
Actually, you're very light for your height, sex and age. Not "a bit light". It may be OK for you, perhaps, as it appears that you are capable of an active life, but you are startlingly light even if your height is taken into account. Nearly everyone of your age and height is heavier than you.

Here is a growth chart showing percentiles for age, height and weight for male people between the ages of 2 and 20 years in the USA.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhanes/growthcharts/set1clinical/cj41l021.pdf

You're outside the range entirely for both height and weight. The bottom lines (one for height, one for weight) are the lowest 5% of people line. You're well below both of them.

This might be acceptable for you. Some people are naturally short. Some people are naturally skinny. Some people grow into their adult size later than others.

Do you know how tall your genetic parents are? That tends to provide a rule of thumb for your own height - people tend to be roughly midway in height between their genetic parents, within a few inches either way. Maybe your parents are short and slightly built, I don't know.

But you are far from the average and it might be a good idea to get some expert medical advice.
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my dad is about 165cm, my mum a bit shorter, my dad's bmi is 24.5
 
anant_shah94 said:
I have a good source of protein, I eat lots of beans pulses eggs milk cheese etc, is there any protein group I'm missing(bearing in mind that I'm allergic to nuts)
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Off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you. I don't know how much of the various kinds of proteins are in different types of food. I know that I should know, but I don't.

I can give you some data to use to start your own research, though.

Proteins are made up of strings of amino acids. Some amino acids your body can make itself, others it can't. These are the essential amino acids, essential in the sense that it is essential that what you eat contains enough of them.

The quality of protein is defined in terms of how useful it is to humans. Protein from vegetable sources is of low quality, except for soya. Soya protein is nearly as good as meat or egg protein. However, there seems to be a lot of concern about soya being dangerous, and not from tinfoil hat-wearers. http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_controversy.html as an example.

Vegetarians need to pay a lot more attention to their diet. Omnivores can just eat meat - the protein is high quality, i.e. their bodies can efficiently make use of it and it provides the essential amino acids. Vegetarians must know not just how much protein is in what they eat, but the composition of that protein. You could eat vast quantities of vegetable protein and still suffer from a "protein" deficiency, or more accurately an essential amino acid deficiency. So if you look at something and it says that the vegetarian food you're about to eat contains, say, 7g of protein...it doesn't tell you what you need to know. You need to get enough of the essential amino acids every day, too, as they don't store well in your body. You don't need to get all of them in every meal, just every day. So you could get more of some essential amino acids at breakfast, more of different ones for lunch and more of others for dinner - as long as you get enough of each over the day.

This page from a uni biology department lists the amino acids you can make and the ones you must get from food.

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/biochemistry/problem_sets/aa/aa.html

You'll see between 8 and 10 listed as essential. Arginine and histidine may or may not be essential for humans, depending on age.

For vegetarians, protein comes down to daily mix 'n' match. Roughly, you're looking at eating different plant groups, as related plants tend to be deficient in the same essential amino acids. So, for example, tortilla (grains) and beans (pulses) make a good combination. I don't need to know the details and I don't care enough to find out the details. You should.
 
willhub said:
http://vitamins-minerals.suite101.com/article.cfm/vitamins_that_vegans_need

a lot learning it seems to become a veggie, taking supplements all the time, I'd rather just eat meat tbh than faffing about taking supplements due to everything you are missing out in the diet. I dont quite believe people have a lower risk of cancer, ehart disease etc... becoming veggie, thats proberbly people who go to mcdonals or burger king regular, they are on a death wish.
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A strange article to quote, given that it outlines vitamins and minerals that vegans MAY be deficient in, and gives perfectly valid vegan sources of those vitamins and minerals.

Your risk of Bowel cancer may be increased if you eat red meat, but there's no proven link, and anything else is just fluff.

:)
 
Nitefly said:
He isn't. You can not get out of the fact that being vegetarian eliminates 'vital' protein from diet. The question was answered fairly.
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That "fact" is not a fact, so there is no need to "get out" of it.

Being vegetarian eliminates the best sources of protein, but it is possible to combine lower quality sources of protein to get all you need. You can get enough of all 8 essential amino acids from meat. You might get enough of 3 of them from one vegetable source, enough of 4 of them from another vegetable source and enough of the eighth from a combination of the two sources (i.e. not enough in either one, but half of enough in each).

A lot more fuss, but it is not a fact that vital protein is eliminated.

Unless you meant something else by the punctuation you used.
 
Angilion said:
That "fact" is not a fact, so there is no need to "get out" of it.
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My punctuation, use of words and sentance structure was utter poo - it wasn't meant to be taken as literally as it sounds.

"You can not get out of the fact that removing meat takes a large proportion of essential amino acids out of diet".

Thats better. Sorry :)
 
I'm a fairly fit guy, watch my weight, and eat pretty well (certainly for a student!)

However, I hate to say it but at your age it doesn't matter that much if you have some crisps to fill you up. I'm not saying just chug down Doritos all day, but if your body needs a pack of crisps, have it! My body has changed to become almost unrecognizable since I was a fat little 14 year old. It's natural and shouldn't worry you!
 
Guiness must do some good, on sunday on a 150mile bike ride one of the guys had a pint of guiness before he was on his way on the bike again, down hills at 30+mph.
 
Robosapien said:
Why on earth is this thread so huge? (crappy pun intended)
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Let's see.

Vegetarianism - check
BMI - check
Underweight - check
Religion - check

The only ways that this thread gets more guaranteed for responses is a combination of immigration, jobs and/or girls. I'm sure with a bit of effort we could link them all in surreptiously but why bother?
 
semi-pro waster said:
Let's see.

Vegetarianism - check
BMI - check
Underweight - check
Religion - check

The only ways that this thread gets more guaranteed for responses is a combination of immigration, jobs and/or girls. I'm sure with a bit of effort we could link them all in surreptiously but why bother?
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Well his language is a bit funny so he could possibly be an imigrant? :eek:
 
When I was your age and in high school, I weighed about the same as you. I was one of the smallest girls (weight) and I used to play a lot of sport - hockey club, athletics club etc. I'am 21 now and weigh around 9 stone.

You don't want to start eating loads of pizza's etc to put on weigth 'cos you'll put it on your stomach and this can be unhealthy (that would be my advise if you were a bit older) however, with you only being 14 it's a difficult situation because with RDA of fats etc they differ from child to adult which I'am sure you'll know. Your a growing boy and you need vital foods for growing up.

I'am currently studying Nutritional Health and all I would do if your desperate to put on weight would be to enjoy your food. There's ways for people to put on weight healthily by logging a diary of how many calories/saturated fat etc you have in a day. However, things like this can lead to people being obsessed with their weight.

All I can say is that I have always been a picky eater and in my later years of high chool then college I put more weight on even though I ate very little I did a lot of exercise. You need to make sure that the energy that you are using for sports etc are equal to the amount of energy that you are intaking from foods. You don't want to be using more energy than the amount you are taking in as this is a way to loose weight.

Idealy (spelling) if your worried about your weight I would seek medical help as they can always put you onto a Nutritionist.

Hope it all goes well and hope this may have been a bit of help for you.
 
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