Dog Dies While Cop Detains Owner

Gilly said:
Yeah, I think so. I don't believe anything is over 55 is it?
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No, usually the limit is more like 60-65, with some roads 70-75. At least this is the case in CA, UT,AZ,CO,NV, OR

Somewhat academic, since everyone drives faster, more like 80-85.


This comes form living in the US for a year.
 
Johnnytoxic said:
The motorways in the UK. Is it me or do you have to be doing 85mph to stay in the outside lane quite happily with the flow of traffic?
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I'd say 80 more like but yes as far as your point goes, it's still above the limit. US speed restrictions are more compelx but probably more sensible than ours...
 
EvilDreams said:
I find that answer absolutely unbelievable.
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Its quite believable I value the life of a dog as equal to any human, without any other evidence to make the decision its an equal choice. If I knew the dog and the person was a stranger then in this hypothetical situation I would kill the stranger. iF the dog was unknown and the person unknown then I would roll a dice or other such random choice - for me they both have equal rights to live, and a crime against an animal is equal to an equivalent crime against a human. I don't differentiate rights between animals, children, adults, elderly, 'civilian', military. I treat all with equal respect and only those I know will I differentiate.

Perhaps if I had knowledge of the person then this would change the outcome.

I don't attach any nonsensical rights or respect to entities I do not know.
 
D.P. said:
Its quite believable I value the life of a dog as equal to any human, without any other evidence to make the decision its an equal choice. If I knew the dog and the person was a stranger then in this hypothetical situation I would kill the stranger. iF the dog was unknown and the person unknown then I would roll a dice or other such random choice - for me they both have equal rights to live, and a crime against an animal is equal to an equivalent crime against a human. I don't differentiate rights between animals, children, adults, elderly, 'civilian', military. I treat all with equal respect and only those I know will I differentiate.

Perhaps if I had knowledge of the person then this would change the outcome.

I don't attach any nonsensical rights or respect to entities I do not know.
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I don't believe you would follow through with what you are saying if this hypothetical situation arose. I don't think you could choose your dog over a human you do not know. This stranger could have a family too. Deep down you know humans come above dogs no matter how close you are to your dog.

I could be wrong though :)
 
D.P. said:
No, I love meat
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Gay.

..Sorry that was quite immature.

On topic though, that is a very strange attitude to have. To me a human life is always above any animal. In this story the cop was right to pull the guy over, but he was an ass about it afterwards. But like people have already said being a cop in America is nothing like the U.K. as it is far more dangerous. I'm not sure a escort for a dying dog would be a good use of police time to be honest.
 
Johnnytoxic said:
I don't believe you would follow through with what you are saying if this hypothetical situation arose. I don't think you could choose your dog over a human you do not know.
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The question was over a strange dog wasn't it? I would certainly choose my own dog over a human I didn't know.
 
The cop was bang on with pretty much everything he said and did tbh!
I agree he could have been a little more sensitive about the situation but I beleive the reason he was so angry was because he had just been led on a very dangerous high speed chase that endangered both his life and many other road users so I can totally understand why he was angry and pee'ed off with the dog owner!
 
Gilly said:
The question was over a strange dog wasn't it? I would certainly choose my own dog over a human I didn't know.
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I do understand that dogs do become part of the family, having never had a dog I don't know how this feels, and I supose means I can't really comment. But are you really serious? You would end another human beings life in exhange for your pet?
 
Fibre_Optic said:
That makes you a very selfish person tbh!

I love all animals to bits so much so that I am vegetarian but I would never risk any human life for the sake of an animals!!
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Humans are animal!

What differentiates humans from other animals? By a chance path in our evolutionary history our ancestors developed to be adaptable tool-users instead of of faster and stronger. It was by no means a clear-cut solution and both solutions co-existed for some time. Besides which, a newborn child has less intelligence and cognitive functionality than an adult dog. This intelligence or cognitive capabilities cannot be a differentiator between other animals and humans.


We are all living things and all living things, without additional knowledge, have equal rights to exist and to carryout their tasks in life. However, many humans have proven themselves not to have any rights
 
D.P. said:
Besides which, a newborn child has less intelligence and cognitive functionality than an adult dog. This intelligence or cognitive capabilities cannot be a differentiator between other animals and humans.
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BS. If an adult dog had the same intelligence as a baby, the dog would be able to acquire the same skills and cognitive ability as a baby can in a year.

You're probably wrongly referring to experience and knowledge as 'intelligence'. Our unlimited capacity for intelligence is what sets us apart from every other species.

Also - poor doggywog. Locky up the bad police men! Jokes aside, it is not worth putting people's lives at risk for the sake of a dog. If this story was reporting that a family was killed in a huge car accident because some guy was speeding while taking his dog to a vets, I am sure you'd be quick to say "omg poor family, all for a stupid dog."
 
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D.P. said:
No, I love meat
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but a cow loves its family? (presuming you eat beef) just as the dog does, and so does the human, what makes you value a dogs over a cow and a human? the fact they just have a connection with you?

you sir, are a fool
 
taz488 said:
but a cow loves its family? (presuming you eat beef) just as the dog does, and so does the human, what makes you value a dogs over a cow and a human? the fact they just have a connection with you?

you sir, are a fool
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Animals do not 'love'. A dog doesn't love its owner. It takes physical pleasure (like most animals) from nice noises and petting, and by looking excited and bouncing around when you walk through the door, it knows it will get such physical pleasures.

Same reason why a baby smiles. It gets a "coochy-coo" reaction from people when it smiles, so it learns to smile more often.
 
JimpsEd said:
Animals do not 'love'. A dog doesn't love its owner. It takes physical pleasure (like most animals) from nice noises and petting, and by looking excited and bouncing around when you walk through the door, it knows it will get such physical pleasures.

Same reason why a baby smiles. It gets a "coochy-coo" reaction from people when it smiles, so it learns to smile more often.
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yes i was just getting a point across, this adds to the argument that you should not shoot a dog over a stranger.
 
JimpsEd said:
Animals do not 'love'.
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Thats BS right there. You have to be taking the **** surely.

When you can walk into a vets and see your really ill dog in a cage living it's last day with no energy to eat/drink or move and you walk in and see the reaction you will understand Animals can love. My dog found the energy to wag it's tail knowing full well it wasn't to get food or go walkies or anything. Just happy to see us.

Maybe you should get a dog and find out for yourself a dog doesn't just play to get food, water and shelter.
 
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