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pinkaardvark said:
Ye can agree with most of that, as said it's partly just my problem. But what I also find irritating is that once poster X has made their comment about Car XYZ being the best thing since sliced bread, that comment gets repeated hurled at the OP time and time again even if they have posted "I don't want car XYZ but thanks for the comment".

Example being a mondeo is a good value car, hell i'm on my third. But it's certainly not for everyone and would not fit everybody's criteria.
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I think it depends on the reason for rejection. I cant speak for everyone else but 'I really dont like the Mondeo, I drove one once and I just couldnt get on with it' will result in me not bothering to mention it again.

But usually you dont, you get utterly random responses which clearly indicate the OP has given it zero thought.

'I want a hatchback, not a Mondeo' when 70% of Mondeos are hatchbacks. Or 'I dont want a big car, I don't need the extra space' when a smaller car will cost 500 quid more so why not just have the space and not use it? Thats a bit like going to Sainsburys and not buying some Shredded Wheat because it has a 50% extra free offer on, and instead buying another box with less in it for more.

Or 'it will drink petrol, no thanks' without bothering to work out how much it'll cost. etc etc.

Thought out, rational responses will rarely result in a flame war. Random junk often will.
 
[TW]Fox;12469871 said:
It's called a discussion - this is a discussion forum after all. If you only posted in a thread if you liked the car you'd get 11 replies saying 'nice car'. What a worthwhile thread that would be.
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no **** sherlock. its a pointless discussion most the time though, just like discussing about the bmw/mondeo love



when someone tells someone the car theyve just bought is crap what do you think it is going to achieve ?

are they going to take it back even though personally theyre chuffed with it and couldnt wish for anything better ?

its just pointless and after pages of quotes from car review mags and websites often comes across as trying to belittle the op. trying to make them look a fool


fair game when its a "what car should i buy with xxxx cash" though
 
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"andy" said:
when someone tells someone the car theyve just bought is crap what do you think it is going to achieve ?
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and herein lies the reason why threads on OcUK get derailed

Some people on here are very oppiniated and see it as their duty to point out to people the errors of their ways

Unfortunately however, despite posting on here, they dont want to be shown the error of their ways, especially if they see things another way

And this is when threads get derailed
 
That rather depends on what you consider derailment. Discussions of the relative merits (or not!) of buying a Vauxhall in a thread the OP himself titled 'OH NO! HE BOUGHT A VAUXHALL!' is not in my opinion derailment.

It might not be what the OP wants to see but it's on topic and it's the nature of the beast. You know that if you post a car up on the internet you are, whether implicitly or otherwise, inviting comment both good and bad and perhaps fuelling debate.

Because seriously, how dull is 20 replies of 'congrats mate' or 'thats nice'? Its pointless and serves only as an ego massage, if thats what you want post on a one make forum.
 
i was more thinking of the countless people that come in here

and wont be disuaded otherwise that buying a diesel is not necessarily more economical.
 
[TW]Fox;12470580 said:
'congrats mate' or 'thats nice'? Its pointless and serves only as an ego massage, if thats what you want post on a one make forum.
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You've never done that?

anyway I hope it will make this place slightly more car/technical oriantated, because at present it sometimes doesn't feel that way.
 
Fair do's. Could this also include stropping people from recommending Mondeos in "spec me a car" threads where people have opened by saying "No Mondeos please, I find them boring"? Or even banning this retaliatory commenting for anything excluded by an OP in a spec thread.

My Do I go Bravo or 146 thread turned into a complete Mondeo or not slagging match.
 
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BigglesPiP said:
Fair do's. Could this also include stropping people from recommending Mondeos in "spec me a car" threads where people have opened by saying "No mondeos please, I find them boring"?
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You can proably count on one hand the number of times this has happened in the last 5 years. So I'd like to make sure that people are also banned from recommending Emu's in 'spec me a potato' thread, given its similar prevelance.
 
"andy" said:
no **** sherlock. its a pointless discussion most the time though, just like discussing about the bmw/mondeo love



when someone tells someone the car theyve just bought is crap what do you think it is going to achieve ?

are they going to take it back even though personally theyre chuffed with it and couldnt wish for anything better ?
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Agreed and I believe 99% of the time is why the thread gets de-railed into a BMW/Mondeo dislike or appreciation discussion.

All this your new car is junk, will break or is just plain crap is bound to provoke a reaction.

If that isn't dealt but the Mondeo/BMW is I would think many people just wont bother posting here.
 
I like the motors forum, and this is a good move, but from "andy"'s post down is really what annoys me about this forum, a certain persons constant need to argue with everything! Its the same person every time, and its getting old now, when every I see a thread thats a few pages long I don't bother even looking at it as I know its going to be Fox arguing with the rest of the motors forum about something.
I just can't believe the Mod's haven't noticed this or seemed to do anything about it :p
 
Why dont we ban discussion all together seeing as some of you cannot understand that two opposing views are called a discussion or debate? And wayn0r given you only ever post here in threads about your Golf why would you care what goes on in other threads? :p
 
Good call, too many good threads are being ruined by people who seem hell bend on steering threads in to petty squabbles. It's really off putting. It is one thing if someone says "post your opinion about this mod, upgrade, new car etc" and you say it's not your cup of tea. It is totally another just posting off topic or boring "recurring jokes" that send the thread down the toilet.
 
It's nice to see somebody finally taking the bull by the horns and sorting out the rather annoying BMW/Mondeo epidemic!
 
The ironic thing is that there are more posts by me discouraging people from buying a BMW than there is recommending them. I am convinced people like Third Opinion only post here for the drama, have you ever seen a non doom mongering or moaning post from him?
 
[TW]Fox;12471717 said:
Why dont we ban discussion all together seeing as some of you cannot understand that two opposing views are called a discussion or debate? And wayn0r given you only ever post here in threads about your Golf why would you care what goes on in other threads? :p
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thats not true!

is it? :p

The fact is, wether you like it or not most threads are or end up being bmw / mondeo related. i only post in the threads that interest me.
 
It would be interesting to have a thread that pulls together all the knowledge that's commonly posted on here i.e. the reason why not/to buy a diesel, why not to buy new and how to choose a car. A kind of 'read this before you post' thread.
 
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