2008 Italian GP - Race 14/18

if a straightish line is crossing over the track right to left then yes he was lol look where lewis is as mark moves to pass him then look where he is when he bumps webber off the track that is not a straight line
 
Cavallino said:
And we thought we'd never see your face again after last weeks debacle :D
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It wasnt really a debacle.

Had they banned Hamilton and taken away all his points for the season - that would have been a debacle.

He only lost a few points and still came out of the race leading the WDC, hence, its not too much of a big deal. Even Hamilton himself, has stated that he isnt too fazed about it.

EDIT: the FIA seem to be doing everything they can to keep the title race as close as possible and make it go down to the last race of the season. In 2007 and 2008, this generally meant going pro-Ferrari. Its a shame that they seem to be discouraging "racing" and "overtaking". Even the normal F1 viewer (if this thread is anything to go by), is now scrutinising every overtaking move made. This should not be.

1.5 decades ago, Senna got away with much worse and didnt even get so much as a $1 fine. He intentionally took Prost out of a race and made no effort to hide his intent. He also brake-tested Mansell at Monaco 1992. No one even suggested that he should be penalised. And Mansell himself, accepted that that is part of racing, at the highest level.

If people like Mark Webber can't handle ruthless drivers like Hamilton (or Senna/Prost/Piquet, before him), then he really is in the wrong Formula. Has Mark Webber actually complained at all?
 
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TheStig1 said:
if a straightish line is crossing over the track right to left then yes he was lol look where lewis is as mark moves to pass him then look where he is when he bumps webber off the track that is not a straight line
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Hold on, let me just make sure I've got your full Scuderia tinted fresco correct. Kimi is allowed to leave no room? Hamilton is not allowed to leave enough room? Or did Webber not have enough room in your opinion?
 
sunama said:
It wasnt really a debacle.

Had they banned Hamilton and taken away all his points for the season - that would have been a debacle.

He only lost a few points and still came out of the race leading the WDC, hence, its not too much of a big deal. Even Hamilton himself, has stated that he isnt too fazed about it.

EDIT: the FIA seem to be doing everything they can to keep the title race as close as possible and make it go down to the last race of the season. In 2007 and 2008, this generally meant going pro-Ferrari. Its a shame that they seem to be discouraging "racing" and "overtaking". Even the normal F1 viewer (if this thread is anything to go by), is now scrutinising every overtaking move made. This should not be.

1.5 decades ago, Senna got away with much worse and didnt even get so much as a $1 fine. He intentionally took Prost out of a race and made no effort to hide his intent. He also brake-tested Mansell at Monaco 1992. No one even suggested that he should be penalised. And Mansell himself, accepted that that is part of racing, at the highest level.

If people like Mark Webber can't handle ruthless drivers like Hamilton (or Senna/Prost/Piquet, before him), then he really is in the wrong Formula. Has Mark Webber actually complained at all?
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Blimey....

You know I typed in the word debacle as I couldnt think of another word at the time and KNEW that someone would disect it to pieces :D
Never fail to dissapoint sunama ;)

Substitute 'last weeks debacle' for 'last weeks events' or 'the words to that effect :D
 
Anders0n said:
Can I repeat my question from the last race thread, why do people hate Hamilton so much?
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Cos sadly a proportion of British people like to knock their successful sportsmen and women for some reason. Happened with David "We lost the world cup and its all his fault for getting sent off" Beckham, Tim "could do better" Henman etc etc.
 
Cavallino said:
No but he did put his hand up in protest during the race itself :P
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Aaaah. In the heat of moment, drivers do that. You shouldnt read anything into that. What matters is if, after the dust has settled, they begin to make noises and put in official complaints.

Duke said:
He is warming up to try and take out the entire field in one go on his final race.
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LOL

Perhaps DC would rather go out with a BANG, rather than wimper.
 
Anders0n said:
Can I repeat my question from the last race thread, why do people hate Hamilton so much?
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Who hates Hamilton?

There are people who get a bit annoyed by him on occasion, a few (like me) who detest the horrendously fanboyish element who infest the media and internet and go around thinking that he's the second coming of Christ, and one or six who think that unless your car is red you've got no business being at the front of proceedings. But that's about it.
 
knip said:
Yup, maybe hes trying to crash into everyone whos ever crashed into him, just some of the other newer drivers keep getting in his way :p
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David Coutlhards Diary:

"Dear Diary,

Today I have yet again successfully ruined another drivers race by ploughing into them. In actual fact I could have potentially caused another incident involving drivers running over the debris from my 'accident', but it was not meant to be.

My collision agenda is on course and Hamilton is scheduled next on the list which I hope to achieve at the Singapore debut GP."
 
Cavallino said:
David Coutlhards Diary:

"Dear Diary,

Today I have yet again successfully ruined another drivers race by ploughing into them. In actual fact I could have potentially caused another incident involving drivers running over the debris from my 'accident', but it was not meant to be.

My collision agenda is on course and Hamilton is scheduled next on the list which I hope to achieve at the Singapore debut GP."
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I dont type this very often but LMAO!
:D
 
JRS said:
Who hates Hamilton?

There are people who get a bit annoyed by him on occasion, a few (like me) who detest the horrendously fanboyish element who infest the media and internet and go around thinking that he's the second coming of Christ, and one or six who think that unless your car is red you've got no business being at the front of proceedings. But that's about it.
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Hate was perhaps too strong a word but there are definitely loads on here who have a strong dislike for him, and too me it seems entirely unjustified, almost like they are jealous because he's better than their "favourite" driver or something.

So what if he's hyped up in the British media, what do people expect? British drivers are always going to get the most coverage on a British TV Channel, expect exactly the same when it moves to the BBC. It's not even as if he hasn't fulfilled the hype, it's clear he has the potential to be the best. I don't know what peoples expectations were but he's certainly satisfied mine.
 
knip said:
Cos sadly a proportion of British people like to knock their successful sportsmen and women for some reason. Happened with David "We lost the world cup and its all his fault for getting sent off" Beckham, Tim "could do better" Henman etc etc.
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Yawn - why do so many people feel they have to defend him just because he is British? At least my opinion isnt partly based on some unjustified need for patriotism...

I dont like the bloke as Ive watched him come up the ranks and the type of person he is, is just not someone I would want to know or give the time of day to. Hes like Alan Sugar, you admire what hes done, but you wouldnt want him to be your friend or be associated to you...

For me hes the personification of the New Labour spin campaign...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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