Gears Of War screen tear

thedoc46 · 21 Sep 2008 at 00:59

Hi,

Just got this game today. Never owned it on the 360, just rented it, anyway finally got round to getting it on the PC.

I have an ATI 4850 with VSYNC on always within the driver as well as VSYNC on within the game, but this game has some terrible tearing issues.

It's an otherwise beautiful game, except for the screen tear.

Is this just cos its a bad port? or does vsync just not work with this game, even though it has an option for it.

Thx

C64 · 21 Sep 2008 at 01:18

Try not using ccc just remove it all and use the driver only file and ati tray tools vsync doesn't work for me either on any of the current drivers with ccc but works fine if I don't use ccc.

thedoc46 · 21 Sep 2008 at 03:18

C64 said:
Try not using ccc just remove it all and use the driver only file and ati tray tools vsync doesn't work for me either on any of the current drivers with ccc but works fine if I don't use ccc.

I'm sorry but your reply is confusing.

I've tried within the CCC 'Off Unless Application Specifies' with VSYNC on within the game.

I've tried within the CCC 'Always On' and VSYNC off within the game,

and neither do jack scmidt.

Oh and I downloaded the latest patch... I want to get in to this game.. But not in its current form.

Thx

AWPC · 21 Sep 2008 at 03:20

thedoc46 said:
Hi,

Just got this game today. Never owned it on the 360, just rented it, anyway finally got round to getting it on the PC.

I have an ATI 4850 with VSYNC on always within the driver as well as VSYNC on within the game, but this game has some terrible tearing issues.

It's an otherwise beautiful game, except for the screen tear.

Is this just cos its a bad port? or does vsync just not work with this game, even though it has an option for it.

Thx

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17892507&highlight=Gears

thedoc46 · 21 Sep 2008 at 04:45

AWPC said:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17892507&highlight=Gears

No other way, I don't particuarliy want to install RivaTuner just to fix my vsync issue for one game.. Just another app to slow down my pc.

thedoc46 · 21 Sep 2008 at 12:30

thedoc46 said:
No other way, I don't particuarliy want to install RivaTuner just to fix my vsync issue for one game.. Just another app to slow down my pc.

OK i fixed the screen tear by installing RivaTuner, even though i didn't want to.. Especially considering that i have an ATI card and Riva seems to be more geared for nVidia..

Anyway the tear is gone.. BUT this thing randomly crashes back to the desktop, like in no particular pattern...

What a pile of *&%I%

Looks the whiskers, mind ! PC's are sooooo much better looking than the consoles....

Trust me when i say my pc is in ship shape.. I detested having to install rivatuner for this reason.. downloaded the patch and that hasbn't helped....

Is this game for real? I mean come on, how many bugs vsync not working and constant crashes.. very sloppy.

Trox · 21 Sep 2008 at 12:48

I bought this game yesterday, ive had no issues with the game. Ive even registered and used the Windows Live thing without issue

Could it not be driver related causing the issues?

I find the Unreal engine pretty poor, in terms of the field of view stuff, the game would look far better if the textures were clear and not blurry 5m from you.

Final8y · 21 Sep 2008 at 13:38

I use CCC with D3DOverrider ..job done V-Sync on any thing you want.
you need to install RivaTuner to get D3DOverrider from with in the draws & just copy D3DOverrider to where you want & uninstall RivaTuner.

Run the D3DOverrider on its own with CCC.

Final8y · 21 Sep 2008 at 13:40

Trox said:
I bought this game yesterday, ive had no issues with the game. Ive even registered and used the Windows Live thing without issue

Could it not be driver related causing the issues?

I find the Unreal engine pretty poor, in terms of the field of view stuff, the game would look far better if the textures were clear and not blurry 5m from you.

Textures are clear as crystal here & i play at 2560x1600.

AWPC · 21 Sep 2008 at 13:41

thedoc46 said:
No other way, I don't particuarliy want to install RivaTuner just to fix my vsync issue for one game.. Just another app to slow down my pc.

Does not slow down your PC at all. Also try enabling DX10 mode + AA as it looks real good with these on 4850/4870.

Trox · 21 Sep 2008 at 14:34

Final8y said:
Textures are clear as crystal here & i play at 2560x1600.

clear?

I have everything maxed, the unreal engine uses blur on distance objects; anything more than 5m away from you.

i wouldnt call that clear as crystal

Unless you have some sort of custom mod or config then i would want it

AWPC · 21 Sep 2008 at 14:58

The whole reason for these vsync is issues is the way MS handled Vsync in Vista.

You would think they would patch their own flagship release but no as Epic abandonded it ages ago rivatuner is the only fix on Vista.

Still a big improvement on the 360 version but nothing that special on the PC which again just shows you how far ahead it is (at least 1 hardware generation).

thedoc46 · 21 Sep 2008 at 15:21

Thanks, my pc came up with an gfx driver error with riva installed so i un-installed and i'm back to the screen tearing.. Mind you I didn't try Final8y's idea of copying the D3DOverider to a different place before uninstalling..

BUT the bigger problem still remains. This game crashed back to the desktop randomly in Vista. I'm running with Catalyst 8.9 on a Vista install that is as good a fresh new clean install.

I do agree it looks much better than the 360 version. Higher res and higher than 60fps makes for a smoother look and feel, shame i can't lock it down to 60fps and have to endure screen tearing.

AWPC · 21 Sep 2008 at 15:36

thedoc46 said:
Thanks, my pc came up with an gfx driver error with riva installed so i un-installed and i'm back to the screen tearing.. Mind you I didn't try Final8y's idea of copying the D3DOverider to a different place before uninstalling..

BUT the bigger problem still remains. This game crashed back to the desktop randomly in Vista. I'm running with Catalyst 8.9 on a Vista install that is as good a fresh new clean install.

I do agree it looks much better than the 360 version. Higher res and higher than 60fps makes for a smoother look and feel, shame i can't lock it down to 60fps and have to endure screen tearing.

Have completed it several times with no crashes & vsync using this method. Have you set DX10 mode in the game settings (you have to move the controller right twice to do this).

chaosophy · 21 Sep 2008 at 15:48

How odd, I just reinstalled this again yesterday. And can confirm what a buggy piece of code it is. Random crashes, half the joypad buttons stop working, all buttons apart from home stop working or it switches back to m+k/b with no pad buttons working. And it has a habit of minimising itself!

v.v.strange game indeed. Not sure if I can be fussed with it any more. The first time I played it it was boring me to tears but just as I got a bit further into the game and started enjoying it, it wiped my saves.

Since upgrading my GFX card again and having got a 40" LCD I thought I'd give it another go.

Also can't seem to get it to run at 1080p fullscreen, TV says the signal switches to 1080i and I get about an inch black boarder around it.

Trox · 21 Sep 2008 at 15:57

I dont know how ya can say its buggy, unless yir using a non patch game? As it runs fine on an nvidia card :/

Game runs perfectly, its just the field of view blurr i hate.

chaosophy · 21 Sep 2008 at 16:08

Nope, fully patched. Latest game update and GfW Live redist. With out those it wouldn't even load for me the first time.

In about four hours play yesterday I had to restart the game at least three times and the PC once.

Oh the sound is another thing, spent most of the time all coming out the rear two speakers!

Trox · 21 Sep 2008 at 16:15

strange

Must be a pain in the ass, i just got the game yesterday and ive not had any issues so far :/

Metalface Mark · 21 Sep 2008 at 16:15

thedoc46 said:
OK i fixed the screen tear by installing RivaTuner, even though i didn't want to.. Especially considering that i have an ATI card and Riva seems to be more geared for nVidia..

Anyway the tear is gone.. BUT this thing randomly crashes back to the desktop, like in no particular pattern...

What a pile of *&%I%

Looks the whiskers, mind ! PC's are sooooo much better looking than the consoles....

Trust me when i say my pc is in ship shape.. I detested having to install rivatuner for this reason.. downloaded the patch and that hasbn't helped....

Is this game for real? I mean come on, how many bugs vsync not working and constant crashes.. very sloppy.

The vsync not working isnt a game bug, nor is it crashing, its an ati driver bug.

That said the game is bugged, and you can lose your save files with no retrieval.

I gave up with my 4870 as a result of stuff crashing to desktop and having to turn vsync on/off (screwed with vlc media otherwise) and went back to a lower specced 9800 which gives me no trouble.

Final8y · 21 Sep 2008 at 17:04

Trox said:
clear?

I have everything maxed, the unreal engine uses blur on distance objects; anything more than 5m away from you.

i wouldnt call that clear as crystal

Unless you have some sort of custom mod or config then i would want it

That would be a depth of field effect, progressive textures Or low AF .
I don't have the game installed atm as im doing a fresh vista install.