That's what it was like when it was bought with 8,000 miles on the clock.
Super Fuels not worth it ?
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That's what it was like when it was bought with 8,000 miles on the clock.
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I have never noticed any difference on a variety of cars I have tried it in.
Not saying there are not exceptions but I suspect most of the increase in performance/economy is phsycological.
For 6-8p more a litre you would need a fair increase in consumption to pay back.
Not saying there are not exceptions but I suspect most of the increase in performance/economy is phsycological.
For 6-8p more a litre you would need a fair increase in consumption to pay back.
The performance increase is very real when a car has been specifically mapped for it.
Well, as long as I don't rag it i'm getting about 7 mpg more.
Normally Coopers get about 35mpg.. Running on 97 I get about 42mpg.. and even when i'm ragging the **** out of it I still don't drop below 40mpg
(Note: even though mine is the newer shape, it DOESN'T have the efficiant dynamics stuff on it)
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Absolute rot I'm afraid.
Changing from 95 to 98 RON fuel on a 1.6 litre petrol engined car is not going to yield a 7mpg improvement. Heck I'd go so far as to say changing from 95 to 98 RON fuel on a 250bhp turbocharged car mapped for 98 RON fuel won't give you a 7mpg advantage!
You are imagining it, exagerating it, or whatever - not sure what the reason is, but it sure as heck isn't becuase you use VPower.
Oh the 40mpg thing is a load of bunkem as well, doesnt drop below 40 when ragging the **** out of it? Get real, last Mini I had did about 34mpg and I wasn't ragging it just driving it normally around town.
Just beyond your grasp..
You are imagining it, exagerating it, or whatever - not sure what the reason is, but it sure as heck isn't becuase you use VPower.
Oh the 40mpg thing is a load of bunkem as well, doesnt drop below 40 when ragging the **** out of it? Get real, last Mini I had did about 34mpg and I wasn't ragging it just driving it normally around town.
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Just beyond your grasp..
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And your proof of this?
When i first had it was getting about 35 once I started getting it filled every week with 97, the MPG went up? don't quite see what your point is Fox.
Well there you go, all the proof we need.
Absolutely no way will it make 7mpg difference, I'd put money on it!
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Well maybe it's a little less, but there deffinatley is a difference, and as for the actual mpg why the hell does my T/C say i'm GETTING 41/42 because WITHOUT the E/Dynamics it's high because my Mums Cooper only gets 33.
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I have always been led to understand that if your car is designed to run on super then it will give better performance etc than if its not designed to run on the fuel. My girlfriend used to use a Mitsubishi GTO for work ( 3-400 miles per week) and would run it on normal unleaded but every so often give it a drink of super and the difference was very noticeable, the car was quicker and ran better. Now she has her 3.2 TT it is only run on Vpower and it also runs better than when she ran it on normal unleaded, so it basically comes down to your car. I was for instance told buy an R8 owner that it could ONLY be run on super and normal unleaded could not be used.
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Lol, k.
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i had my 2.0 primera for 3 years, and fed it on super 90% of the time, and for the last year and a half it had timing advanced (simple timing light/dizzy adjustment) to take advantage of the extra clean burn.
each year that i owned the car the emissions actually got better over the previous year, and my butt dyno says that i definately had a few more ponies on tap advanced and able to run safely without pinking on super.
i did notice a 1mpg gain over 6 months driving after advancing the ignition which shows that gains can be made if the car is set up to utilise the better burn...thats doing 9k miles per year on off the motorway, before 30.6 mpg, after 31.6~ and that is massivley averaged out doing the same work run for 3 years straight too.
some uk cars, the Corolla TS-Compressor really needs to run on 97ron all the time to avoid any pinking!
but obviously the paper didnt look as deeply into the matter...
still i wouldnt bother using super more than once a month on a standard 1.6 or below tbh.
each year that i owned the car the emissions actually got better over the previous year, and my butt dyno says that i definately had a few more ponies on tap advanced and able to run safely without pinking on super.
i did notice a 1mpg gain over 6 months driving after advancing the ignition which shows that gains can be made if the car is set up to utilise the better burn...thats doing 9k miles per year on off the motorway, before 30.6 mpg, after 31.6~ and that is massivley averaged out doing the same work run for 3 years straight too.
some uk cars, the Corolla TS-Compressor really needs to run on 97ron all the time to avoid any pinking!
but obviously the paper didnt look as deeply into the matter...
still i wouldnt bother using super more than once a month on a standard 1.6 or below tbh.
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Sorry West, don't quite believe that the difference is that noticeable. I'd imagine a gain, if any, would be in the order of 1-2mpg. I can't see a Mini getting 20% better fuel economy.
Bear in mind fuel economy readouts on cars lie like hell. Mine can be out by 10mpg or more. The only real way to measure any gains is to do record mileage versus how much fuel you put in the tank when you brim it, and even measuring it that way would assume you drive identically every day.
What's the official figure on the forecourt ads? That you get an extra 30miles per tank? Wow...
Bear in mind fuel economy readouts on cars lie like hell. Mine can be out by 10mpg or more. The only real way to measure any gains is to do record mileage versus how much fuel you put in the tank when you brim it, and even measuring it that way would assume you drive identically every day.
What's the official figure on the forecourt ads? That you get an extra 30miles per tank? Wow...
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WOW AMAZING look I can do that as well:
Which proves.. nothing. I'm not saying you cant average 40.9mpg, there are many occasions when a Mini will do much better than that (Otherwise why suffer that crappy 1.6 if you dont get good fuel economy), but 'when ragging it' or around town isn't an example of such an occasion.
Which proves.. nothing. I'm not saying you cant average 40.9mpg, there are many occasions when a Mini will do much better than that (Otherwise why suffer that crappy 1.6 if you dont get good fuel economy), but 'when ragging it' or around town isn't an example of such an occasion.