I disagree. They were very fun with some friends and what's more, the kind of game you could pick up and play in the space of five minutes. It would be wrong not to play them because they're not RA2.
Civ4 is good, but if the guy is worried about playing a game for 4 hours then it might not be the game for him ... as you can easily blink and a day has passed without u realising on that game
another vote for company of heroes, i dont see any rts innovating the genre like that has any time soon
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