Freemasonary....

Vegetarian said:
Lastly Freemasons is a religion - they worship Satan - they believe Satan was the good one and God is the evil one! Madness
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I am afriad this is rubbish. The only religious part of the masons is the expression of belief in a supreme being. Who that supreme being is, is entirely up to the mason. This of course upsets some Christian denominations (the catholic church being the prime one) as it conflicts with church doctrine by being somewhat free and loose with who the supreme being is.

Unless of course you are one of the more fundamentalist christians who thinks that if you don't specifically worship Jesus then you are worshipping the devil. In which case you are quite correct and they are all damned and going to hell.
 
Vegetarian said:
Lastly Freemasons is a religion - they worship Satan - they believe Satan was the good one and God is the evil one! Madness
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Really, I thought they "believed" in "The Great Architect" or something like that.
I don't think Satan has anything to do with it.
I'm not a mason and I know very little about them, but what I don't think is that it's much other than a social get together and not really sinister at all.

I went to an open day sometime, years ago, it's not a secret society; it's a society with secrets.

Go find one and get invited to join if you're that fascinated with the whole thing.

Most places where good jobs go to idiots is because of who they know, not what they know, and probably nothing to do with masons at all.
 
Pretty interesting thread.

I've always thought, it's been a bit of a 'I'll look after you, if you you keep an eye out for me' sort of thing. In the sense of, when a member is in need, other Mason's help out a bit, regardless of the problem.

I see it as blokes interests (family, friends etc) wanting to be looked after, and having some sort of security etc. I'm sure there's corrupt sectors, as with any organisation, but the general rule of thumb being, 'If I'm in need, you shall be there, and vice versa', sort of thing. I just generally see it as man who practice proper traditions, i.e. having gentlemans rules and practices, and wanting to protect and be protected.

I can't see any harm in it, so I don't know why people are getting so up tight.
 
skolem said:
It depends on the lodge as to exactly what they are up to, but if you research into the ceremonies such as the one mentioned in the OP, and compare them with those used in witchcraft, you will be surprised at how similar they are. Whether the individuals taken part in the ceremonies are aware of it or not, they are certainly under a heading I would describe as 'dodgey'!
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If of course the information about them is actually true and not from one of the numerous anti-masonic sources. And then you have the issue of some lodges requiring their members to be Christian which sort of suggests they aren't really satanists.
 
I would join, though I don't have the time yet for the commitment. This thread has some pretty far and inbetween theories and snippets of info about what Freemasonary is. I have a few ties to the mason's, but I am not one before you ask.

They do not worship Satan. Each member has their own beliefs, but this usually constitutes a greater being. I would say that the large majority of people are inspired by Christianity.

"It's not a secret society; it's a society with secrets. " is correct.

Everybody looks after each other. For example, my father kept his job over somebody else due to his ties with them. Everyone looks out for each other as a basic rule of thumb. Most events are things like social outing for bowls, golf, social evenings, charitable discussions, birthdays, course and direction of the lodge and passage reading.

Masons happen to be at the highest position of the social and economic hirearchy in most circumstances, so getting the best of everything is a standard for them.

Example: My elderly neighbour is a current lodge grandmaster and I do lots for him where I can, but ask for nothing in return. His son in law is the Managing director of my company and low and behold I was offered a job with his company. I have strangely taken over somebody else's position and been promoted twice since I have been helping his father in law. Salary increases, bonus's and generally well looked after by the MD.

Also, a mason I knew had a really bad cancer with a 40% chance of survival. 8 years on and several treatments/operations later he is fit as a fiddle. The doctors and specialists available to him were second to none.

I will clarify that with the mason's, the saying: "How deep does the rabbit hole go" applies.....which means that higher up masters probably have many secrets and circumnavigate many of society's codes with their contacts. This is the sketchy area which people hear many things about and I am sure get info mixed up with Simpsons and crazy youtube videos to make out they control the world etc. They don't control the world, but they pretty much run it collectively.... oil giants, police members, politicians etc.

This thread is very interesting to see people's views on the whole subject :)
 
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Initiation varies from lodge to lodge, as does every ceremony and practice.

Oh and just laugh at the comments of "How can anyone be in a trusted position because they like to have an imagination and perhaps play on it a bit!" etc. Do these same people complain when a leader is religious?
 
I am illuminati and free masons are just a bunch of chess nerds who are no where near as cool as us. Today we are having a fancy dress party where everyone must dress up as a digimon. very nice :cool:
 
Booner! said:
Everybody looks after each other. For example, my father kept his job over somebody else due to his ties with them.
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Careful, if they can prove that's the reason they have a case for unfair dismissal there. That's the problem people have with them generally, it's not the fault of the person who lost their job they weren't a mason.
 
bigredshark said:
Careful, if they can prove that's the reason they have a case for unfair dismissal there. That's the problem people have with them generally, it's not the fault of the person who lost their job they weren't a mason.
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Hard to get that throught court when the Judge and others are fellow Masons.

You can't win against the Masons
 
DampCat said:
I kind of want to be a freemason now :/
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Nearly all of my friends, and my family (Dad, Uncle, Cousins etc.) are members. I cba. It's just a load of blokes, mostly late middle-aged and older, standing around, reciting a few passages, then hitting the pub after to complain about the world. I skip all the ceremonial guff and go straight to the pub :p
 
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