Soldato
- Joined
- 4 May 2006
- Posts
- 3,361
- Location
- Manchester
Kotaku said:
http://kotaku.com/5082290/howd-you-like-your-game-ending-to-be-dlc
Interesting idea this one, would certainly deter pirates to some extent.
What do you guys think?
Game Endings to become DLC?
- Thread starter Ascendancy
- Start date
http://kotaku.com/5082290/howd-you-like-your-game-ending-to-be-dlc
Interesting idea this one, would certainly deter pirates to some extent.
What do you guys think?
I said this earlier in the gears thread with the gears 1 map pack. Say fifa added the addidas live league code on the back of the box. It wouldn't be hard for them to do the same thing but make the code unlock the 4 best teams in each country.
So you wouldn't be able to play as ManU, Chelsea Arsenal or Everton in this country unless you had the code on the back of the manual.
I think it's going to become a more popular way to deter some pirates.
So you wouldn't be able to play as ManU, Chelsea Arsenal or Everton in this country unless you had the code on the back of the manual.
I think it's going to become a more popular way to deter some pirates.
Buying it used isn't piracy though is it. I buy very few games at full price as I simply can't afford to-used games are very important to me, and if a company started doing this then I simply would either not play the game at all, or not play the final boss. They wouldn't make any more money out of me!
That part that you have quoted says nothing about piracy; if they did this as an anti-piracy measure, where you needed the code in the back of the manual that would be fine. However, doing it to stop people buying used or renting is ridiculous.
This is why DLC is possibly the way to go with these things. It's not a new idea and has been the reason Microsoft have gone DLC rather than Blu-Ray which may not be as much of a format winner, but a stop-gap til DLC is fully roled out.
Soldato
- Joined
- 13 Jun 2004
- Posts
- 3,810
- Location
- Brechin
Im not sure if that would work, look at how many copies rental companies buy and how many people buy a game, complete it and sell it on to recoup some funds back, who wouldnt really buy the game in the 1st place. I can see the need to reduce the amount of piracy but its just greed that they dont get a piece of the action from the large 2nd hand market and rentals and trying to force those who do use those options to pay for content that should already be in a game.
Soldato
- Joined
- 13 Jun 2004
- Posts
- 3,810
- Location
- Brechin
But how many game compaines would drop thier prices?
If they did, then as mentioned above they would need to be half or lower than what they are costing now, so even if buying the dlc ending sequences it would still cost less than now, thats they only way i can see that working and thier sales figures would drop drasticaly if they didnt.
If they did, then as mentioned above they would need to be half or lower than what they are costing now, so even if buying the dlc ending sequences it would still cost less than now, thats they only way i can see that working and thier sales figures would drop drasticaly if they didnt.
Utter crap IMO, I was annoyed at having to download the Gears 2 Map pack which should have been put on the disc in the first place and now they are talking about making us download a big chunk of a game? 
Luckily this idea will NEVER take off and even if they do try, it will fail instantly
The only way that they will be able to stop the majority of piracy on games consoles is to offer the whole game as a download and nothing else, but even that has its downside since around 50-70% of consoles are not connected to Live/PSN (going by the number of consoles sold and Live/PSN accounts made), thus they would be shooting themselves in the foot and alienate a large majority of their consumers.
It has been 3 years since the 360 launched and so far nobody has made any major break throughs with running homebrew code on the console yet and I don't think they will for some time yet. By the time they do figure it out, the console will be coming to the end of its life.
Luckily this idea will NEVER take off and even if they do try, it will fail instantly
The only way that they will be able to stop the majority of piracy on games consoles is to offer the whole game as a download and nothing else, but even that has its downside since around 50-70% of consoles are not connected to Live/PSN (going by the number of consoles sold and Live/PSN accounts made), thus they would be shooting themselves in the foot and alienate a large majority of their consumers.
It has been 3 years since the 360 launched and so far nobody has made any major break throughs with running homebrew code on the console yet and I don't think they will for some time yet. By the time they do figure it out, the console will be coming to the end of its life.
Last edited:
I hope this never happens. All it will do is end up peeing off genuine customers. I always purchase brand new games, and if they start locking out bits of the game until you prove you bought it then it's just mad. I certainly wouldn't buy any game that locked out a main part of the game.
Surely they must tie in the game with your console id for this to work. So what happens when it breaks? or you decide to upgrade your console? I'm betting it'll be expensive phone calls to transfer the license over, and that would soon get very old if you had lots of games that used this system.
If they could implement this in such a way that it never inconveniences a genuine customer then fine, but I can see this going the same way as securom on the pc games and in effect limiting customers too much.
Surely they must tie in the game with your console id for this to work. So what happens when it breaks? or you decide to upgrade your console? I'm betting it'll be expensive phone calls to transfer the license over, and that would soon get very old if you had lots of games that used this system.
If they could implement this in such a way that it never inconveniences a genuine customer then fine, but I can see this going the same way as securom on the pc games and in effect limiting customers too much.
I also hope this never happens. It's an utterly pathetic idea. They just want to grab every last bit of money that they can. DLC means you can't sell a game on and that is all they are interested in.
I'd rather have a disc than a download on a console.
I'd rather have a disc than a download on a console.
Soldato
- Joined
- 28 Mar 2005
- Posts
- 11,255
- Location
- Newbury
This tbh.
Especially now they're forgetting to transfer DRM licences in the repair process.
I've no problem with the idea from my point of view.
If it's just an unlock that lets you prove you bought the game it won't effect me. It'll be a tiny filesize and I always buy my games new. I agree that developers get screwed into the ground with the whole second hand deal.
I can however see problems for people without connections to live. If it where to work, both MS and Sony would have to rethink their downloadable content strategies in my opinion though. The Xbox's is far too restrictive if you go through one of more boxes (make the DRM tool reset monthly, or allow content to play on anybox provided the account that downloaded it it present, that should be easy to check). And the PS3s is probably a bit too easy to get around at this point.
Last edited:
Agree 100%
But it'll also decimate the second hand market.
I'm well against this idea, it'll make it damn near impossible to sell on second hand software for anything worth the effort.
Its already happening though. The adidas live code for fifa. Very sly and if you go to ebay it loads of people want to know if you have used the code. The gears map pack will be the same if you try to sell it on.
Of course the pirates way around that is to buy the retail disc and sell it on minus the game code so spending £6-8 on the map packs.
Little things like that will become about a lot more often in the future, probably for online play. They could do stuff like holding back the best weapons unless you have a retail code.
It will reduce the re-sale value but there are still hundreds of thousands of people who dont play online and will still buy the game.
Of course the pirates way around that is to buy the retail disc and sell it on minus the game code so spending £6-8 on the map packs.
Little things like that will become about a lot more often in the future, probably for online play. They could do stuff like holding back the best weapons unless you have a retail code.
It will reduce the re-sale value but there are still hundreds of thousands of people who dont play online and will still buy the game.