BBC presenter sacked for demanding non-Asian driver

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Beren said:
Dictionary definition of Racism: “...discrimination on the basis of race, especially against blacks and other non-whites.”
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I don't know where you get your definition from but that definition is inherently racist towards white people.

Dictionary.com states:

Code: 
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

1. She did not say that white was superior to asian
2. I doubt she has any "policies"
3. Her words did not express hatred or intolerance, just concern for a child

To be honest, non-white races are just as racist as whites ( :( difficult to type that without sounding racist) but because it would be racist to claim that they are racist, it than stops being allowed to be called racist.
 
starfighter said:
Or perhaps you don't undertsnad that if everyone was to ask for a white taxi driver (which they most likely would do as most the population are white) then it would be harder for non whites to gain taxi driving employment.

There are victims! It is in no way a harmless incident.


I have no pent up range, if I do have a chip on my shoulder it is a racist one. Last month an Asian taxi driver went through a red light and smashed into the side of me which wasn't nice. But I dont now hate all asians. That would be ......

I admit to probably being aliitle racist myself as like I have said statistically some prejudices can be "correct" but having witnessed the problems racism causes and how it is unfair on those disadvanatged by it I can see it aint a good idea and do my best not to be.

Unlike some people on here it seems.
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I'm sorry, I just don't agree that this "racism" is in any way harmful. Like the woman herself said, if it was her she wouldn't care but since it was her daughter she wanted a driver she would FEEL safer with. I do not see how that hurts anyone. The only thing the woman is guilty of is a slightly misguided idea of keeping her daughter safe.

I really can't stand racism, but not for the reasons many do. My only experience of it (notwithstanding the "milky bar kid" taunts from black kids at school - OMFG I'm so scarred :rolleyes:) has been the stupid PC attitudes of modern Britain whereby anyone with who dares to take a generalised view that even slightly undercuts a minority race is branded a heretic and burned at the stake (figure of speech). For these reasons, I hate the idea of racism, and not what racism actually is. In fact, if any real racism still exists in this country I doubt people could even comprehend it now.

The fact of the matter is that this womans actions hurts NO ONE, and the only way one could reason that it does is by projecting so hard that you are no longer even talking about her actions anymore. She is being branded guilty by extension. The laughable thing is, we are all racist by this definition. Everyone automatically takes a general opinion of a person as soon as we see them, we are programmed that way. These people decrying her actions are so hypocritical and they don't even know it. The only difference between them and her is that she broke the unwritten rule that you don't voice your generalisations, because that's bad mmmkay.
 
El_Watcher said:
To be honest, non-white races are just as racist as whites ( :( difficult to type that without sounding racist) but because it would be racist to claim that they are racist, it than stops being allowed to be called racist.
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That's because the racist and anti-racist particles annihilate each other and release crazy amounts of foolishness. :)
 
Tefal said:
except, Pakistan means "land of the Pak" iirc, istan is just land of or something to that effect.
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But the name Douglas means Dark River (from Gaelic dubh "dark" and glais "water, river"), yet it is shortened to Doug and Douggie.
And Alexander means Defending Men (from Greek αλεξω (alexo) "to defend, help" and ανηρ (aner) "man"), yet this is shortened to Alex, Xander etc.

Shortening the name is not there to change the meaning but to speed up and simplify speech patterns, because people are inherently lazy (is that speciesist :p ).
 
nero120 said:
That's because the racist and anti-racist particles annihilate each other and release crazy amounts of foolishness. :)
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i know fine well that im quite racist, but thats because i stereotype on experience, I find that im about as racist as everyone else though, although ill admit it.

Older asians and even whites cross street to avoid you, lock doors on car as you walk past etc - thats racist against white youths imo.
Always check my change at cornershops and what not due to the owners often trying to STEAL money, thats racist of me too, but im sorry im like that for a reason.
Its human nature to assume the worst in people to be honest.
And its hardly my fault that 90% of the indians iv ever had the pleasure of walking near in a bar/nightclub stunk of BO.
Or that I find it amusing that theres an area of town where a 5-6person family house will actually contain 20-30 muslims.
Or that a white youth wearing kappa and air max and what not is a complete spazz chav.
 
nero120 said:
Anyone who thinks she has been "racist" or "hurt people" by doing this is a fool and needs a good dose of kerb :)
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Pray expand - "a good dose of kerb"?

peetee said:
Its human nature to assume the worst in people to be honest.
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I think you're speaking for yourself there, I don't immediately assume the worst of people. I may consider what they could possibly do to my detriment or benefit but I don't assume they will do either.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Pray expand - "a good dose of kerb"?
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When you force a person to grip the kerb with their teeth and then stamp on the back of their head. A particularly cruel and gruesome end. It was an attempt at irony due to it being featured in a film that dealt with issues of true racism, not this pretender witch hunt crap.
 
nero120 said:
When you force a person to grip the kerb with their teeth and then stamp on the back of their head. A particularly cruel and gruesome end. It was an attempt at irony due to it being featured in a film that dealt with issues of true racism, not this pretender witch hunt crap.
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I wasn't quite sure if the reference was intentional or not so thanks for clarifying, it is a powerful film though.
 
Back on topic.
She was not the only one to lose her job

"Miss Mason, 40, asked for a taxi to take her 14-year-old daughter to her grandparents’ home that was not driven by someone with a turban.
The BBC said she was told to leave after making the telephone call at the weekend.
And last night it emerged that an operator at the taxi firm, Streamline Black and White, was sacked for illegally recording the conversation."


It would appear she has a number of ‘issues’

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news...ter-sacked/article-464172-detail/article.html

A person at work knows her and Miss Mason likes the odd drink or 2,3,4,5 ,6 ….
 
underclocker said:
Back on topic.
She was not the only one to lose her job

"Miss Mason, 40, asked for a taxi to take her 14-year-old daughter to her grandparents’ home that was not driven by someone with a turban.
The BBC said she was told to leave after making the telephone call at the weekend.
And last night it emerged that an operator at the taxi firm, Streamline Black and White, was sacked for illegally recording the conversation."


It would appear she has a number of ‘issues’

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news...ter-sacked/article-464172-detail/article.html

A person at work knows her and Miss Mason likes the odd drink or 2,3,4,5 ,6 ….
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Again, without knowing the full story, it would appear that the operator has been made a scapegoat, as I imagine it may be company policy to record conversations. Unless the operator was quick-minded enough to start recording conversation as soon as it unfolded but I think it would have been too late. It doesn't mention if the operator herself contacted the Sun personally or id it was the firm. I'm guessing the former.

You also have to laugh at the name of the taxi firm, considering this predicament.
 
DB_SamX said:
Again, without knowing the full story, it would appear that the operator has been made a scapegoat, as I imagine it may be company policy to record conversations. Unless the operator was quick-minded enough to start recording conversation as soon as it unfolded but I think it would have been too late. It doesn't mention if the operator herself contacted the Sun personally or id it was the firm. I'm guessing the former.

You also have to laugh at the name of the taxi firm, considering this predicament.
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When you are recording a phone call you have to say at the start of the conversation 'this call may be recorded' so even if it company policy it is illegal to record a phone call without the callers knowing so.
 
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nero120 said:
When you force a person to grip the kerb with their teeth and then stamp on the back of their head. A particularly cruel and gruesome end. It was an attempt at irony due to it being featured in a film that dealt with issues of true racism, not this pretender witch hunt crap.
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No great surprise that you'd use a quote from American History X given the rest of what you've written... "I just don't agree that this "racism" is in any way harmful", etc. Sorry if you had a bad experience at school, it's a shame you couldn't get past that and realise it was an isolated incident instead of a justification for a thinly-veiled racist disposition.
 
Fothsn said:
When you are recording a phone call you have to say at the start of the conversation 'this call may be recorded' so even if it company policy it is illegal to record a phone call without the callers knowing so.
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Actually it's perfectly legal for you to record communications with someone so long as it's for your own use, where it becomes illegal is when you pass that recording onto a third party.

http://www.retellrecorders.co.uk/legal/home.htm
 
Lol if that's not racism then I don't know what is.

She needs a donkey punch.
 
Durzel said:
Actually it's perfectly legal for you to record communications with someone so long as it's for your own use, where it becomes illegal is when you pass that recording onto a third party.

http://www.retellrecorders.co.uk/legal/home.htm
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A site selling recording equipment, that glosses over all the major legislation saying that people should gather their own legal advice isn't the best and most reassuring source on legality...
 
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