Left 4 Dead demo available

Delvis said:
Steam pricing has always been garbage, it's not exactly hard to figure out, take COD4 for instance...thats still more expensive than half the new games out at the moment.

Buy it in the shops, or online, you can get it for about £20 delivered, so hey.
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I know, COD4 was just insanity.

I LIKE Steam, that's the thing.
When I learned Crysis Warhead was coming to Steam, I cancelled my £15 preorder, and bought it from Steam instead for nearly £20.
I thought it was worth the few extra quid, for the benefits of Steam.

However, Left 4 Dead is a lot more than just a few quid in it.
You're right, I didn't even know it was coming out on disk until I checked just now. Obvious I guess, but I've got so used to thinking about using Steam only, I forgot about the retail disk method.

I swore I'd never buy another PC disk game, as I hate all the needing a disk in the drive, hunting for, and installing, your own patches... I just like Steam... buy, download, play. No nocd required, auto patching, great!

However, if Left 4 Dead will just plug straight into Steam, and mean I can install it, and literally throw the box and DVD in the bin, no longer required, as Steam will auto patch it, and run with out the disk in the drive, then I'm happy to buy a disk version again.

(I wouldn't actually throw the disk away, I just mean that once it's in Steam, if it works the same way as the Steam version, as if I'd bought it through Steam, then I'll be happy)

Vin.
 
Well, yeah I'd keep the disk :p

As I don't know if STEAM will keep the details saying you have the game if you ever reformat or something...it probably will though.

But yeah, you should be able to install the game, or add the code via steam maybe? Then Steam will take over, just like it did with me for TF2, HL2 and portal.
 
Delvis said:
Well, yeah I'd keep the disk :p

As I don't know if STEAM will keep the details saying you have the game if you ever reformat or something...it probably will though.

But yeah, you should be able to install the game, or add the code via steam maybe? Then Steam will take over, just like it did with me for TF2, HL2 and portal.
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Thanks, that's promising.


I've never had to reinstall anything from Steam, as I always run the backup tool, and keep a copy on another HDD, so if I ever do format, I can just restore, to save downloading it all again.

Anyway, nice to hear that Steam should take over entirely.
As I said, I've only ever bought Half Life 2 etc from Steam, and a few 3rd party ones since. I don't mind paying an extra few quid for the convenience, but Left 4 Dead is taking the Mick.... like COD4 did... I don't get it.. they mustn't sell many, surely?

I tried adding my Crysis retail and UT3 retail serials to Steam, but it won't have any of it, granted, they're not Valve games.

So, if I can be pretty sure that buying the retail, will end up installing into Steam, and not requiring the disk in the drive, and will use the Steam friends/multiplayer system, and auto patch, then problem solved :)

Thanks,
Vin.
 
Dano said:
Maybe you'd like to read a little further before posting?
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Dano said:
Well they can go swing for it if they think that giving us a demo limited in such a way will make me want to buy it, has done the exact opposite in my case and I wont waste the bandwidth to download a demo I may or may not get the opportunity to play.
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you state you wont waste bandwidth on a demo you may or may not get the chance to play , you didnt state you couldnt therefore the comments i and others have made are valid. No need to become obtuse because your circumstances alone are the problem and nothing to do with the DEMO ...

anyway, having said all that the games has had nothing but glowing reports from the demo and theres not many OcUK'ers who dont like it ...
 
Eh? Not going to waste the bandwidth? Bahaha :p

How else are you going to get it? How else do you get ANY OTHER DEMO? Other than a demo disc...oh yes, you download it :p

Unless your ISP caps you significantly, then yeah, I can see why your moaning, but then you would be moaning about every demo that is released...

And if your ISP do cap you, I'd leave them to be honest.
 
Delvis said:
No actually, so do stop spouting such garbage.
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Agreed. I love it when people come out with the age comment - I can only hope that they are old enough to be senile, else they should be old enough to know better.

I bet some of us *wish* we were too young to remember things like Doom being released/demo'd ;)

@the people moaning about the demo being "limited", you really do seem to be forgetting that Valve could've either had no demo or left it so that only pre-orders got to play it. Next you'll be moaning about having to pay money for the full game or something...
 
Aekeron said:
Agreed. I love it when people come out with the age comment - I can only hope that they are old enough to be senile, else they should be old enough to know better.

I bet some of us *wish* we were too young to remember things like Doom being released/demo'd ;)

@the people moaning about the demo being "limited", you really do seem to be forgetting that Valve could've either had no demo or left it so that only pre-orders got to play it. Next you'll be moaning about having to pay money for the full game or something...
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I was merely pointing out that by releasing a quality time limit free demo, or as shareware like Doom, it has been proven in the past to help sell millions of copies of future incarnations of the game. By limiting the demo you limit the amount of people who will get a chance to try before they buy.
 
mart981 said:
I was merely pointing out that by releasing a quality demo for free, or as shareware like Doom, it has been proven in the past to help sell millions of copies of future incarnations of the game. By limiting the demo you limit the amount of people who will get a chance to try before they buy.
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But you create something far more important in this day and age (particularly with a good game).... hype. Nothing sells a game like hype.
 
eekfek said:
you state you wont waste bandwidth on a demo you may or may not get the chance to play , you didnt state you couldnt therefore the comments i and others have made are valid.
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Fair point, I wont disagree but it's hardly a leap of intuition to understand where I was coming from was it.

No need to become obtuse because your circumstances alone are the problem and nothing to do with the DEMO ...
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Of course its the demo causing the issue, as of next week I'd have plenty of opportunity to play it if it was released like 99.9% of all other demos, give me a valid reason behind this limited release and I'll be open to changing my opinion of it, but as it stands I think it's pointless.

anyway, having said all that the games has had nothing but glowing reports from the demo and theres not many OcUK'ers who dont like it ...
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Yes, and most people loved HL2 as well, I didn't and I do not take others opinions as an indicator that I will feel the same.

Delvis said:
Eh? Not going to waste the bandwidth? Bahaha :p

How else are you going to get it? How else do you get ANY OTHER DEMO? Other than a demo disc...oh yes, you download it :p

Unless your ISP caps you significantly, then yeah, I can see why your moaning, but then you would be moaning about every demo that is released...

And if your ISP do cap you, I'd leave them to be honest.
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Well done, did you want to take other comments out of context too? :rolleyes:
 
Aekeron said:
Agreed. I love it when people come out with the age comment - I can only hope that they are old enough to be senile, else they should be old enough to know better.

I bet some of us *wish* we were too young to remember things like Doom being released/demo'd ;)

@the people moaning about the demo being "limited", you really do seem to be forgetting that Valve could've either had no demo or left it so that only pre-orders got to play it. Next you'll be moaning about having to pay money for the full game or something...
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Yeh, and they'd have lost any chance of a sale to me with either of those options too :)

In these days of rampant piracy the only thing not releasing demos does is to supply pirates with an excuse for downloading it.
 
Downloaded it this evening. It's reasonably fun, but overall it's a fairly lackluster shooter. I'll have to play it more to form a solid opinion, as I've only sunk about 30 minutes into it, but it's been only so-so from what I have played.

My main problem is that visually, it's not really spectacular. The Source engine is really showing it's age. Secondly, no iron sights? Really? On the flip side, I did really like the way the zombies move and really charge at you, also the sheer numbers of them is fun.
 
just been playing, not as tense as zp, too much ammo tho have not tried expert level yet.

the demo thing well i think is ridiculous what are they doing with the demo, first only available to pre orderers now only available for the next 5 days or whatever lol.

theres a standard out there at the moment, before a big(sometimes even small) game release there is usually a demo, it free available for everyone and last a very long time. every1 has been happy with that so far.

now we getting greedy money grabbing ideas coming on the scene, you get the demo before any1 else but only if you part with your cash lol, demo is only lasting 5days so you either get your dollar out or get out you aint playing nothing.

so now theres like ppl defending these ideas with crap like oh its their demo they can do what they want lol, no just because they made the game/demo dnt mean they can pull stupid stunts like this that no ones even heard of(u know what i mean). demo for pre order ppl only....5days and the demo is over...GTFO yeah straight point blank NO this is unacceptable....how are people agreeing with this behaviour???? you look at it from a distance and this behaviour is not even fairplay....this is red card stuff

i should be thankful theres a demo, yes i am but its not like l4d are the first to release a demo in the history of pc gaming, like i said its usually a standard for big even small games

i dont see how some ppl are sweet with the way l4d are dealing with their demo. so what if l4d crew start charging for l4d 2 demo, you going to accept that too? lemme guess its their demo they can do what they want and we should be thankful they are giving us the opportunity to play the game before hand even if it has a small charge to it???
 
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