Who claims PC gaming is dying ? LOL
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The real problem behind this is that console players are morons, but not mentally deficient enough to render them unable to post things on the internet.
I remember reading a 2 page epic wall of text article by a console player attempting to put an end to the PC, of which the core arguement was "I can plug my console into my 42" TV".
I am yet to see an arguement put forth by the console nubs that isn't:
a) entirely wrong
b) using extremely vague and unnecessary numbers, which only render it wrong (IE the price debate)
I remember reading a 2 page epic wall of text article by a console player attempting to put an end to the PC, of which the core arguement was "I can plug my console into my 42" TV".
I am yet to see an arguement put forth by the console nubs that isn't:
a) entirely wrong
b) using extremely vague and unnecessary numbers, which only render it wrong (IE the price debate)
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^ While I agree, I dare you to post that in the console section 
S while many people are in the dark on the capabilities and market value of the pc for gaming, it appears many people (in this forum at least) are still in the dark about the mental capabilities of console players.
I am a long time pc gamer here, but moving more and more to consoles for gaming. And it's not because I am somehow getting dumber...
It's merely personal choice. The xbox provides me with an overall more fun gaming experience IMO. Thats the only "argument" I need.
I still have a pc for gaming.... I just don't want to use it for that as much
I am a long time pc gamer here, but moving more and more to consoles for gaming. And it's not because I am somehow getting dumber...
It's merely personal choice. The xbox provides me with an overall more fun gaming experience IMO. Thats the only "argument" I need.
I still have a pc for gaming.... I just don't want to use it for that as much
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If you mean using a wireless controller don't you find lots of the fonts are too small on the PC to play at a comfortable distance?
but finally we have one thats pro PC and not some 'Consoles totally rule PC's dude' !!!
If I was gonna use a wireless controller I'd output to my TV, would be no problem with the fonts then.
What I'm saying is lots of people use the argument that they'd rather not be hunched up over their desk playing a game, now unless they are using some kind of torture chair they are talking out of their arse. I'm in no way hunched over when on my PC at all, heck it's more comfy than sitting on my sofa.
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There is nothing wrong with the PC hardware market. Don't need rocket science for that.....the problem is the games don't sell anywhere near as good as the console market.
Publishers always cite piracy as the problem but its far more than that. Crap ports, rubbish games, obtrusive DRM is more likely the main reasons....
Also, publishers seem to have it in for PC gaming now. Its far more easy to make a dumbed down piece of crap for a closed hardware format like a console. A PC version of a multiformat release is usually just an after thought. There are exceptions but generally I steer clear of multiformat titles for this reason.
Publishers always cite piracy as the problem but its far more than that. Crap ports, rubbish games, obtrusive DRM is more likely the main reasons....
Also, publishers seem to have it in for PC gaming now. Its far more easy to make a dumbed down piece of crap for a closed hardware format like a console. A PC version of a multiformat release is usually just an after thought. There are exceptions but generally I steer clear of multiformat titles for this reason.
Can't read the article because of work but hardware numbers matter how?
Surely the health of the gaming market is detemined by number of games sold? Don't 360 games continually outsell PC games by some margin?
I consider myself neither a PC nor Console gamer, just a gamer, and I don't understand why people feel the need to catagorise themselves. Especially when all machines have so many good games on them.
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The PC, easily has the best lineup this christmas - I know must games are multi platform, but an FPS just isn't the same without 1920x1080p, a smooth frame rate or a mouse
I would very much argue that 99% of multiplatform games are mosre enjoyable on a pc - If I need a pad, I use the wired 360 one
I think people prefer consoles as they are much easier to the less technical person. They buy a game and it works, rather than I need to upgrade this driver, upgrade that part.
I play on the ps3 though, and can see that the hardware is quite a long way behind my desktop, and my desktop isn't even high end anymore.
I would very much argue that 99% of multiplatform games are mosre enjoyable on a pc - If I need a pad, I use the wired 360 one
I think people prefer consoles as they are much easier to the less technical person. They buy a game and it works, rather than I need to upgrade this driver, upgrade that part.
I play on the ps3 though, and can see that the hardware is quite a long way behind my desktop, and my desktop isn't even high end anymore.
The PC, easily has the best lineup this christmas - I know must games are multi platform, but an FPS just isn't the same without 1920x1080p, a smooth frame rate or a mouse
I would very much argue that 99% of multiplatform games are mosre enjoyable on a pc - If I need a pad, I use the wired 360 one
I think people prefer consoles as they are much easier to the less technical person. They buy a game and it works, rather than I need to upgrade this driver, upgrade that part.
I play on the ps3 though, and can see that the hardware is quite a long way behind my desktop, and my desktop isn't even high end anymore.
Thats a big generalisation. I'd bet my bottom dollar that a lot of 360 owners have either come from PC gaming or still have a PC.
Quite often when PC games don't work, it has little to do with upgrading drivers. I never really had any problems with PC games not working but when it happened, it was normally down to lazy programming.
Convenience, but not of a technical nature, is the reason. Its more comfortable (although gaming on my PC is far from uncomfortable) and there is something about that really big screen experience.
Recently for example some friends have had a lot of issues with PC Fallout 3. Did upgrading drivers help? No. Did the higher resolution make up for the convenience and big screen feel of the 360 version? No.
I'd never give up PC Gaming, but until the PC versions of games are less sloppy or more games come out designed with the PC in mind, multi-platform games get bought for the 360 or PS3.
PC gaming isn't going away, but it does bore me at times. When was the last time a really exciting game came out that wasn't an FPS/RTS/MMO?
Personally I have my PC for MMOs and the odd FPS, that's what they're good at. I play everything else on my PS3. Fan boys on both sides of this years old argument need to calm down a bit...
Personally I have my PC for MMOs and the odd FPS, that's what they're good at. I play everything else on my PS3. Fan boys on both sides of this years old argument need to calm down a bit...
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............but good to hear someone else thinking this way as well
PC Gaming is at least a generation ahead of 360/PS3
PC Games offer the publishers almost twice the profit margin of console games as no royalty licence fees to pay to the platform holders so even if a PC game sells half as much the profits are still the same.
Windows For Games Live is now totally free on the PC. MS are even building a Marketplace just like the 360 one which will contain demos, & you will be able to buy DLC & Movies on it.
Its so easy to hook your PC up to a HDTV even a child can get it working.
Been gaming this way for almost 2 years and the difference is huge. All you need is a wireless 360 pad (or any other wireless gamepad or even just a USB wired pad although the cables will be messy) and either a DVI to HDMI (you can pick decent ones up for under a tenner), VGA to VGA, DVI to DVI or HDMI to HDMI cable. RTS are not really suited to this (a cheap piece of wood or other flat material on your lap can hold the mouse + kb easily) but everything else is perfect and using a free utility like Xpadder you can map any keyboard command in your favorite game to use your gamepad instead if it does not have native support (most new games do now).
I now use my 360 & PS3 very little. When I first got the 360 in Sept 2006 to play Dead Rising (still one of the best games on it) the PC gaming scene was fading as everyone was concentrating on 360 but now mainly thanks to MS who make it very easy for 360 games to be ported to PC you can count on most games eventually appearing nearly always with the best gfx & sometimes extras which were paid 360 DLC but we get it for free
Multiplatform games are here to stay as the costs to make games are now so high they have to release on PC/360/PS3 to have the best chance of getting their money back. Fallout3 is a great example of how far ahead the PC version is and how they can make strong interfaces designed for gamepads.
There are so many shockingly bad games on 360/ps3 which have terrible FPS issues and drops as well as extreme screen tearing as vsync is disabled to avoid even lower FPS. Neither console has a decent enough GPU or VRam. They were ok maybe 2 years ago but thats a long time in hardware and the PC is way ahead with DX11 around the corner and very fast gfx cards available now for around £100ish which can turn even a 2 year old PC into a console destroyer. Then you even have issues on consoles now like show stopping bugs, patches & the requirement to have a HD to install this stuff
(360 HD's pricing is outrageous and you risk a LIVE ban if you mode a cheaper HD to replace the official one).
Some parts of the world are experiencing rapid growth in PC gaming as they do not care much for consoles and want the best games which only the PC can provide.
PC gaming should just go from strength to strength now
............but good to hear someone else thinking this way as well
PC Gaming is at least a generation ahead of 360/PS3
PC Games offer the publishers almost twice the profit margin of console games as no royalty licence fees to pay to the platform holders so even if a PC game sells half as much the profits are still the same.
Windows For Games Live is now totally free on the PC. MS are even building a Marketplace just like the 360 one which will contain demos, & you will be able to buy DLC & Movies on it.
Its so easy to hook your PC up to a HDTV even a child can get it working.
Been gaming this way for almost 2 years and the difference is huge. All you need is a wireless 360 pad (or any other wireless gamepad or even just a USB wired pad although the cables will be messy) and either a DVI to HDMI (you can pick decent ones up for under a tenner), VGA to VGA, DVI to DVI or HDMI to HDMI cable. RTS are not really suited to this (a cheap piece of wood or other flat material on your lap can hold the mouse + kb easily) but everything else is perfect and using a free utility like Xpadder you can map any keyboard command in your favorite game to use your gamepad instead if it does not have native support (most new games do now).
I now use my 360 & PS3 very little. When I first got the 360 in Sept 2006 to play Dead Rising (still one of the best games on it) the PC gaming scene was fading as everyone was concentrating on 360 but now mainly thanks to MS who make it very easy for 360 games to be ported to PC you can count on most games eventually appearing nearly always with the best gfx & sometimes extras which were paid 360 DLC but we get it for free
Multiplatform games are here to stay as the costs to make games are now so high they have to release on PC/360/PS3 to have the best chance of getting their money back. Fallout3 is a great example of how far ahead the PC version is and how they can make strong interfaces designed for gamepads.
There are so many shockingly bad games on 360/ps3 which have terrible FPS issues and drops as well as extreme screen tearing as vsync is disabled to avoid even lower FPS. Neither console has a decent enough GPU or VRam. They were ok maybe 2 years ago but thats a long time in hardware and the PC is way ahead with DX11 around the corner and very fast gfx cards available now for around £100ish which can turn even a 2 year old PC into a console destroyer. Then you even have issues on consoles now like show stopping bugs, patches & the requirement to have a HD to install this stuff
(360 HD's pricing is outrageous and you risk a LIVE ban if you mode a cheaper HD to replace the official one).
Some parts of the world are experiencing rapid growth in PC gaming as they do not care much for consoles and want the best games which only the PC can provide.
PC gaming should just go from strength to strength now
^ While I agree, I dare you to post that in the console section
I did think about it...i really did