***OFFICAL*** Left 4 Dead Thread!

Anksy said:
is there any patches for this, i bought it today, and cant remember how to use steam, so i installed steam, and says installed game, left 4 dead, so i right click, launch, and its downloading something, and 'updating left 4 dead' and it says ready in aproximatly 11 hours, you are joking ?, if its a patch, is there anywhere else i can manualy download it from, i dont fancy waiting 11-12 hours.
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There was a patch released yesterday. You don't have to do anything though - it should just apply automatically when you launch the game. Shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes.

Try restarting Steam.
 
versus has been so nerfed since the patch its unreal.

I can understand why people who play the campaigns on normal may want normal in versus mode, but it should never be forced to normal for all.

For me being the survivors should be a challenge, the zombies are bossed and as such should be more powerful than the survivors, thats why the survivors need to work as a team to win.

As the game stands now ill not be playing versus until theres a choice of difficulties, theres just no fun to watching your watered down attacks fall flat to even 1 human.

first negative thing ive ever had to say about l4d and yet again another perfectly fine game mode nerfed from whiners. :(
 
To be fair, up until the finale it was pretty 50/50, even if boomers are now effectively poitnless :( The infected won just as many rounds as the survivors.
 
lol, normal mode is perfectly balanced.

a well organised infected team can take down survivors without too much difficulty.

valve also fixed a bug relating to sv_cheats 0 which meant that previously:

a) often the spawn radius for infected was way too large
b) there wouldn't be a tank every stage

so normal mode isn't the same as it was before the patch anyway. the tighter spawn radius around the survivors means the infected can be way more effective.

i occasionally play with my friends with all of us as infected, and with communication its possible to absolutely anihilate some teams on normal...
 
normal mode on versus= FAIL!

i wont be playing it anymore.... it is sooo boring now.. :/ all the survivors completed no mercy final level with orange hp? ?!?!? mks2005 you think it's good right now.. cos you probably dont play much l4d on vs mode... wait till you get better youll see how boring it is loads of people are just leaving in middle of the game... :/
 
being able to spawn as infected closer to survivors makes no difference when your attacks do so little damage on normal.

Honestly the only reason its balanced is because each team gets to swap roles, its no different than it was on advanced. The only diff with normal is that the hordes and all attacks are so weak.

A few times today a survivor was singled out, caught by a hunter/smoker or surrounded by a horde when downed and they survived long enough for the horde to pass. Thats a complete joke.

The biggest problem with making normal on versus is that it doesnt punish people who want to go loner, ive played enough games since the patch to see peopel not as worried about making a run on their own because as it stands now a single human can defend anything without worring about where *** cavalry is.

That may seem balanced to some but when you play the game always on expert you know just how poor the "new improved" versus mode is.

All they have to do is make the difficulty selectable in the lobby and the problem is fixed, people can then play as they wish.
 
sharpygsxr said:
being able to spawn as infected closer to survivors makes no difference when your attacks do so little damage on normal.

Honestly the only reason its balanced is because each team gets to swap roles, its no different than it was on advanced. The only diff with normal is that the hordes and all attacks are so weak.

A few times today a survivor was singled out, caught by a hunter/smoker or surrounded by a horde when downed and they survived long enough for the horde to pass. Thats a complete joke.

The biggest problem with making normal on versus is that it doesnt punish people who want to go loner, ive played enough games since the patch to see peopel not as worried about making a run on their own because as it stands now a single human can defend anything without worring about where *** cavalry is.

That may seem balanced to some but when you play the game always on expert you know just how poor the "new improved" versus mode is.

All they have to do is make the difficulty selectable in the lobby and the problem is fixed, people can then play as they wish.
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couldn't aggree anymore more... doesn't look like valve are going to change it :( yesterday they locked it to normal but with console command people could still vote it to expert.. today they locked that console command.. so there's no way to change it... :( it was so much more lolz and fun playing on expert.. :mad:
 
I've had some great VS games since the last patch, so I can't complain - and another one tonight. I've not had a single game where the survivors have dominated completely either. Odd that others are finding it so one-sided when I've found it the opposite. I'm pretty sure there was a sub-minute round in an OCUK versus match yesterday...
 
Anksy said:
how do i find The/A ocuk server ? i keep getting poor laggy servers with people i cant understand
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Just get some of the OCUK group in your friends list and then join games with friends in.....the more OCUK tags you have in your friends list, the more likely you are to get a game :)

And just back to the VS point I was making earlier - just had a full OCUK VS match and it rocked hard - me, Raz, DampCat and Minstadave reached the safehouse twice I think and so did the other team (Reflux, presuming ed, Rob RX-7 and Nutrition). Some of it was totally mental - the very first round of Blood Harvest, it felt like the other team had instant respawn - they were causing an unbelievable amount of cursing on our team :D

Thanks to all involved - had a cracking couple hours :D
 
Good game guys.

I'm not sure how it's been ruined... infected won 90% of rounds, regardless of which group was playing? :o

Great fun though!
 
bah im trying to get in some of your games but having no luck ha

ive been in god knows how many "join the server as soon as a slots available" but havnt seen one ocuk person yet :/
 
Anksy said:
bah im trying to get in some of your games but having no luck ha

ive been in god knows how many "join the server as soon as a slots available" but havnt seen one ocuk person yet :/
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Once you have added people to your Steam Friends list, you can select to join games with friends - so add as many as you can from the OCUK L4D group and you'll start joining as many games as you want :)
 
Aekeron said:
Hmm..will have to investigate more but doubt that this is due to a game balance issue.
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No i meant that people are saying it's too easy for Survivors now that the difficulty has been locked normal, but we just played a 3 hour game and the Infected won most of the rounds, even when the teams were swapped.

It's harder as infected to hide behind a mob of zombies, but tbh, you shouldn't be hiding behind a mob of zombies. you should be working together to make distractions and pick out individual targets.

I enjoy playing Vs even now, and i prefer playing as Infected even though it's apparently been "nerfed".
 
DampCat said:
No i meant that people are saying it's too easy for Survivors now that the difficulty has been locked normal, but we just played a 3 hour game and the Infected won most of the rounds, even when the teams were swapped.

It's harder as infected to hide behind a mob of zombies, but tbh, you shouldn't be hiding behind a mob of zombies. you should be working together to make distractions and pick out individual targets.

I enjoy playing Vs even now, and i prefer playing as Infected even though it's apparently been "nerfed".
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Exactly my view as well. Either both teams last night were poor survivors (which I dispute, cos I'm great :D) and great infected, or the balance seems ok to me (or the opposite of what folk are saying). After I saw the 90% comment, I realised that I can only recall making it to the safehouse once and almost to the helicopter....if anything, I think the infected consistently kicked our behinds!

And one other thing I realise I like about this game - the non-existent scoring system during the game. To be perfectly honest, I'd like them to even remove the scoring that Infected have - it proves nothing. The stats at the end of the game, however, are always a laugh - and they should present those in versus games too.
 
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