The future of fuel tax

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What's the future of fuel tax going to be, with all this unemployment going about and the failing economy surely people can't keep paying 50odd pence per litre!

Just wondering :)
 
Also, 1.3bar in a diesel rover :confused: My Fiat Coupe was only running 1.1 bar. Is that on a standard turbo?

Whats a VP37 tuning kit? I thought a VP37 was a fuel injection pump. Do tell.
 
Bug One said:
Also, 1.3bar in a diesel rover :confused: My Fiat Coupe was only running 1.1 bar. Is that on a standard turbo?

Whats a VP37 tuning kit? I thought a VP37 was a fuel injection pump. Do tell.
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19psi is the standard recognised limit to boost on the L series lumps, some people run 21 or 22 but not really recommended. Bear in mind of course this is total boost including atmospheric pressure, if for some reason you thought I meant boost plus atmospheric :)

The VP37 is the fuel pump model; the device in question adjusts the fuel quantity delivered by the VP 37 and is called a TU1. Very nice bit of kit, really makes a difference and is controllable via variable resistor.

Edit: Standard turbo, Garrett GT15.
 
rover416i said:
Because we pay a silly amount in fuel tax to Gordon Clown and his crew. :(

Edit: 50p a litre in fuel tax :)
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You pay £187k to the prime minister regardless of how much you get taxed.

Your tax is paying for welfare, defence, the NHS, justice, roads etc. All of which, at some point in your life you may well rely on.

If you dont like it, vote Tory when you next get your chance.
 
Bug One said:
You pay £187k to the prime minister regardless of how much you get taxed.

Your tax is paying for welfare, defence, the NHS, justice, roads etc. All of which, at some point in your life you may well rely on.

If you dont like it, vote Tory when you next get your chance.
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Just because those things are currently provided by the state doesn't mean it's being provided cost effectively. Fix the massive endemic inefficiency and taxes can go down without impacting service levels.

And that's before we get into the discussion about whether the state is the best provider of any of the services mentioned, which is probably for another thread.
 
There are many schools of thought that think now is the time to raise fuel duty, I'd have to say they have a more than convincing argument.
 
Strife212 said:
Increasing the price of fuel would increase the price of everything, raising fuel duty any more is madness.
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Yes, in an economy where we are worried about deflation that would be bad? The money would have course not disappear like it seems you have suggested but instead be redistributed in other areas where its possibly needed more. Also the increased price of fuel would lower demand and stop as much of the UKs money going to the Arabs.
 
RDM said:
They increased the duty on fuel to cover the cut in VAT. I am guessing it won't be reduced when VAT goes back up again...
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they have already said they will keep it at the new higher rate.#


they have there big spending spree to pay for dont forget!
 
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Spamalot said:
Yes, in an economy where we are worried about deflation that would be bad? The money would have course not disappear like it seems you have suggested but instead be redistributed in other areas where its possibly needed more. Also the increased price of fuel would lower demand and stop as much of the UKs money going to the Arabs.
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And dramatically hit the population mobility, make working and shopping less attractive as people don't have the spare money to fund the increased outgoings, not to mention the positive effects of government spending as a means to escape a recession have been generally discredited to everyone who isn't the labour party when it's fuelled by either tax rises or massive unaffordable borrowing (because Labour squandered the longest period of growth in the last century or more).
 
rover416i said:
Got it now :p just been out to the shop, had a brainfart before. At idle obviously boost is 0 on my gauge, when I hooned it was just short of 19.

Sorry :)
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OT, but how does it read boost then? Or does it correct from the partial vacuum you'd expect in the induction system at idle and call that 0 bar, even though it isn't? I ask because my car registers -0.6 bar or so when idling, as air has to be sucked through the induction. Does this mean you're running 19psi over the negative true value, or 19 absolute? Either way, why does it read 0 at idle?



And in response to the original question, here is my prediction: expect raises in fuel duty most years. You may see the occasional freeze (and this will probably include 2009), but no party with an actual chance of winning an election is likely to do anything else. So expect no change if/when the Tories win. Unless they bring some (other) form of pay-as-you-drive or road pricing to replace it. Squeal piggy, squeal.



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Meridian said:
And in response to the original question, here is my prediction: expect raises in fuel duty most years. You may see the occasional freeze (and this will probably include 2009), but no party with an actual chance of winning an election is likely to do anything else.
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You know labour actually gave us a real-world cut of fuel tax most years?
 
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