Deaths in Gaza - Use of Israeli Force

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As a lawyer, I know a lot about how much the law rests on terms such as 'reasonable' and 'proportionality'.

Every area of law, from crime, contract and tort is based largely upon these principles.

It is almost a general rule, from an officer arresting a suspect, to a man on the street defending themselves, from imposing a duty on an occupier to keep land safe and to a dentist having a duty not to provide negligent treatment or advice. Every action must be reasonable in the circumstances and reactions must be proportionate. Using this logic, alongside other principles specific to the area of law, liability and then damages are assessed.

Never will the onus or duty be so great that it would unnecessarily punish the negligent dentist, or the over zealous police officer, that it would be disproportionate to the aim desired to be achieved. Which is why negligence, most of the time, is not a crime - to impose criminal sanctions in every instance would be too harsh. And it is why it is not acceptable to kill someone just to prevent them punching you in the arm.

War throws these principles away. Which is why it is so horrific. It defies explanation and logic. But I would like to draw attention to the unreasonable and disproportionate use of Israeli force in the Gaza Strip.

Thousands more Palestinians have been killed in the conflict than Israelis. Israel uses its massive force that betrays every principle of law that civilised society is based upon. It is a disgrace.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html
 
As a lawyer, I know a lot about how much the law rests on terms such as 'reasonable' and 'proportionality'.

Every area of law, from crime, contract and tort is based largely upon these principles.

It is almost a general rule, from an officer arresting a suspect, to a man on the street defending themselves, from imposing a duty on an occupier to keep land safe and to a dentist having a duty not to provide negligent treatment or advice. Every action must be reasonable in the circumstances and reactions must be proportionate. Using this logic, alongside other principles specific to the area of law, liability and then damages are assessed.

Never will the onus or duty be so great that it would unnecessarily punish the negligent dentist, or the over zealous police officer, that it would be disproportionate to the aim desired to be achieved. Which is why negligence, most of the time, is not a crime - to impose criminal sanctions in every instance would be too harsh. And it is why it is not acceptable to kill someone just to prevent them punching you in the arm.

War throws these principles away. Which is why it is so horrific. It defies explanation and logic. But I would like to draw attention to the unreasonable and disproportionate use of Israeli force in the Gaza Strip.

Thousands more Palestinians have been killed in the conflict than Israelis. Israel uses its massive force that betrays every principle of law that civilised society is based upon. It is a disgrace.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html

As a lawyer I'd have thought you'd know better than to make statements such as "Israel should not exist. Scum. " in a debate that is clearly not one sided.
 
Very bias site.

its either bias to israel, or bias to Palestine. Nothing really sits in the middle.

Israel is defending it's people from the actions of islamic terrorists

oooooooooooookkkkkkkkk.


So when we went into Iraq, and Afghanistan we killed as many Civilians as possible on our way? No we didn't. So why is Israel "ok" to kill 100s of Palestinians every time Hamas fires rockets?

Its kinda like us nuking Argentina flat because they took the Falklands. slightly OTT reaction every time.

thats another point. Everyone seems to think israel is reacting to Hamas renewed fighting, but have you guys ever thought that Hamas is reacting to the fact israel (and Eygpt) are still blockading the Gaza strip? (part of the ceasefire was that the blockage would be lifted after a set time).
 
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So when we went into Iraq, and Afghanistan we killed as many Civilians as possible on our way? No we didn't. So why is Israel "ok" to kill 100s of Palestinians every time Hamas fires rockets?

SO if Israel is so intent on killing civilians like you claim, why don;t they use counter battery fire on the rockets hamas fires from inside civilian areas?
 
I think gaza should be resettled in africa. somewhere nice and cozy like next to mauritania. Nice warm weather, friendly locals, plenty of room for them to play with their fireworks and build their tunnels and sandcastles. I'm sure they'll all be game with a little incentive like some new furniture from ikea or something.

Good idea?
 
As a lawyer I'd have thought you'd know better than to make statements such as "Israel should not exist. Scum. " in a debate that is clearly not one sided.

Israel should not exist. No homogenous state based on religion or race should.

And when they use their force, no other word can be used to describe them other than scum, like a local bully on an estate.
 
As a lawyer, I know a lot about how much the law rests on terms such as 'reasonable' and 'proportionality'.

Every area of law, from crime, contract and tort is based largely upon these principles.

It is almost a general rule, from an officer arresting a suspect, to a man on the street defending themselves, from imposing a duty on an occupier to keep land safe and to a dentist having a duty not to provide negligent treatment or advice. Every action must be reasonable in the circumstances and reactions must be proportionate. Using this logic, alongside other principles specific to the area of law, liability and then damages are assessed.

Never will the onus or duty be so great that it would unnecessarily punish the negligent dentist, or the over zealous police officer, that it would be disproportionate to the aim desired to be achieved. Which is why negligence, most of the time, is not a crime - to impose criminal sanctions in every instance would be too harsh. And it is why it is not acceptable to kill someone just to prevent them punching you in the arm.

War throws these principles away. Which is why it is so horrific. It defies explanation and logic. But I would like to draw attention to the unreasonable and disproportionate use of Israeli force in the Gaza Strip.

Thousands more Palestinians have been killed in the conflict than Israelis. Israel uses its massive force that betrays every principle of law that civilised society is based upon. It is a disgrace.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html

In my humble opinion, lawyers are not always the shining beacons of justice that they portray themselves to be.

The rule of law works for lawyers when it is convenient, and is twisted by them when it is not.

On topic, Israel has a right to defend itself from attack abd proactively target those who target Israel, but in terms of proportionality of Israel's military onslaught, you have my agreement there.
 
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