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Sick of 4870 - Is the GTX 260 any good?
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What problems have you been experiencing? Most problems are driver related and can be fixed without returning the card. Is there anything that we (forum members) may be able to help you with before you return it?
This is his thread asking for help.
New Radeon 4850 - Not detecting my TV
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17957583
New Radeon 4850 - Not detecting my TV
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17957583
I hear you guys but really shouldn't a card just run straight out of the box?
I've never had so many problems with overheating, graphical glitches, etc - The s-video doesn't even work on this card (for me anyway). My old nvidia card never gave me any problems...
I saw how incredibly hot this thing gets and just thought it was normal, until I started getting graphics glitches, even on the desktop! I don't believe in having to manually force the thing to get its fan in gear too, especially if it involves having to use a program that if something goes wrong, its not ati's problem!
Also, what's up with all the new texture pop-ins? Never seen so much LOD textures.
Yes, this isn't my only problem
I've never had so many problems with overheating, graphical glitches, etc - The s-video doesn't even work on this card (for me anyway). My old nvidia card never gave me any problems...
I saw how incredibly hot this thing gets and just thought it was normal, until I started getting graphics glitches, even on the desktop! I don't believe in having to manually force the thing to get its fan in gear too, especially if it involves having to use a program that if something goes wrong, its not ati's problem!
Also, what's up with all the new texture pop-ins? Never seen so much LOD textures.
Yes, this isn't my only problem
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I take it your case is adequately cooled and the rest of your components are also running at their optimum temperature?
Yes the cards run hot, but they are designed to withstand high temperatures. If you do not feel like using the default fan controls, grab Rivatuner or something similar and set the fan speeds in that. Alternatively, grab the latest drivers (8.12) and you will be able to mod the fan speeds with that.
Would it be possible for you to take a screenshot, or possible a picture of the graphical glitches you speak of? That way we can more correctly determine what could be the cause of them.
E.D.I.T.: When you installed the 4870, how did you go about removing previous drivers? Is this pc a completely new build? What psu have you got powering the card?
Yes the cards run hot, but they are designed to withstand high temperatures. If you do not feel like using the default fan controls, grab Rivatuner or something similar and set the fan speeds in that. Alternatively, grab the latest drivers (8.12) and you will be able to mod the fan speeds with that.
Would it be possible for you to take a screenshot, or possible a picture of the graphical glitches you speak of? That way we can more correctly determine what could be the cause of them.
E.D.I.T.: When you installed the 4870, how did you go about removing previous drivers? Is this pc a completely new build? What psu have you got powering the card?
I reformatted for the new card, so everything is fresh. I have a 550 power supply. Motherboard, CPU and RAM are all new.
The graphics glitches I am getting were green/red spots going in and out of sight (I thought it was part of the game until I returned to desktop). It only starts when running games for a while.
edit: and when Overdrive is on - I did autoconfigure but obviously the card hates it. It seems like most people don't seem to be having problems with overdrive but there are a few that do.
One of the main problems I have is that graphics in Crysis seem to have suffered a "downgrade", plus turning around quickly will reveal ugly LOD textures which totally kills the experience.
I friggin hate the ATI control panel
Temperatures are fine inside the machine too.
GTA4 graphics have taken a hit with lots of ugly lods textures again and no noticeable difference in performance over my old 8800gts
The graphics glitches I am getting were green/red spots going in and out of sight (I thought it was part of the game until I returned to desktop). It only starts when running games for a while.
edit: and when Overdrive is on - I did autoconfigure but obviously the card hates it. It seems like most people don't seem to be having problems with overdrive but there are a few that do.
One of the main problems I have is that graphics in Crysis seem to have suffered a "downgrade", plus turning around quickly will reveal ugly LOD textures which totally kills the experience.
I friggin hate the ATI control panel
Temperatures are fine inside the machine too.
GTA4 graphics have taken a hit with lots of ugly lods textures again and no noticeable difference in performance over my old 8800gts
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What motherboard, cpu and ram have you got? What is the make and model number of the psu?
Sorry for sounding somewhat patronising, but have you plugged in both power cables into the back of the card?
Sorry for sounding somewhat patronising, but have you plugged in both power cables into the back of the card?
Yep, both are plugged in
I have a PQ5 Pro motherboard, Quad Core Q6600, 4GB Ram (will have a look at the powersupply)
I should have mention (I edited the above post) that the glitches only happen when Overdrive is enabled. However, to take control of the fan you have to have it enabled..
edit: Are there any programs to set fan speed higher when it goes above say 80c? Does Rivatuner do this?
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Rivatuner does do this indeed You can enable Overdrive without overclocking the card, but Im going to assume that you are already doing this. Thats quite a hefty system you got there though, and depending on the integrity of the rails of that psu it may not be enough.
E.D.I.T.: How many hard drives have you got going? Any other devices that may be sucking the life out of the psu?
You can enable Overdrive without overclocking the card, but Im going to assume that you are already doing this. Thats quite a hefty system you got there though, and depending on the integrity of the rails of that psu it may not be enough.E.D.I.T.: How many hard drives have you got going? Any other devices that may be sucking the life out of the psu?
Rivatuner does do this indeed
E.D.I.T.: How many hard drives have you got going? Any other devices that may be sucking the life out of the psu?
Ah now you are delving into the mind of a paranoid maniac!
I've been having lots of problems with my old computer and couldn't figure out what it was. All started when I updated my RAM to 4gb which made things worse. So I thought it must be my Motherboard.... then my Graphics card died on Christmas Eve
My luck has been so poor recently I'm automatically assuming everything is worst case scenario!
Anyway, my PSU is a Thermaltake TR2-550 PP, ATX 12V 2.0
I have a Audigy 2 ZS Soundcard and 2 Hard 250GB hard drives running seperately (not RAID)
Edit: by the way, when enabled, and after "auto detecting", Overdrive sets my GPU Clock at: 780MHz, Memory Clock: 950Mhz - what would be a non-over clocked setting?
Also, I had set my fan on a constant speed of 40% as it never ever seems to go near that even while running Crysis. That is where my problems started.
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If you go for a 260 make sure its at least a GTX260-216 as these are a little faster than 1Gb 4870s right now.
I went from a 4870 512MB to 260-216 and could not be happier as no more driver related issues for me or texture pop ins due to lack of Vram.
I went from a 4870 512MB to 260-216 and could not be happier as no more driver related issues for me or texture pop ins due to lack of Vram.
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Im confused as to which card you have, as this threads about a 4870 your tired off, yet your other threads about a 4850.
Either way the GTX 260 is a cracking card, it would be more like a sidestep from your 4870, and it would be an upgrade if you have a 4850.
You don't need to to touch auto configure in the Overdrive, thats overclocking your card, all you need to do is unlock the Overdrive with the key to be able to use the manual fan control, then you can use that to turn the fan up, it sounds to me like you've overclocked the card by doing an auto configure, and its gone to far as your getting the corruption etc...
Either way the GTX 260 is a cracking card, it would be more like a sidestep from your 4870, and it would be an upgrade if you have a 4850.
You don't need to to touch auto configure in the Overdrive, thats overclocking your card, all you need to do is unlock the Overdrive with the key to be able to use the manual fan control, then you can use that to turn the fan up, it sounds to me like you've overclocked the card by doing an auto configure, and its gone to far as your getting the corruption etc...
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I have a 4870. I couldn't edit the title of the other thread.
It seems you are right, defaults are GPU 750 and 900 Memory clock.
What would you recommend I set the fan speed permanently to? Is there a guide to using Rivatuner anywhere as I'd prefer the card to adjust the fan automatically
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I would wager a significant amount of pretend money that this is the problem.
Out of curiousity, what card did you upgrade from? Chances are this PSU is not providing the appropriate juice... changing to a 260 probably wouldn't fix your issues. Other than the ATI control panel thing.
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Yeah could be the PSU, as just been having a look around at some info for it, and its only got 2x 12v rails, ones at 15v, the others at 14v (if ive been looking at the right one), and thats not enough for a 4870.
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Ah now you are delving into the mind of a paranoid maniac!
I've been having lots of problems with my old computer and couldn't figure out what it was. All started when I updated my RAM to 4gb which made things worse. So I thought it must be my Motherboard.... then my Graphics card died on Christmas Eve
My luck has been so poor recently I'm automatically assuming everything is worst case scenario!
Anyway, my PSU is a Thermaltake TR2-550 PP, ATX 12V 2.0
I have a Audigy 2 ZS Soundcard and 2 Hard 250GB hard drives running seperately (not RAID)
Edit: by the way, when enabled, and after "auto detecting", Overdrive sets my GPU Clock at: 780MHz, Memory Clock: 950Mhz - what would be a non-over clocked setting?
Also, I had set my fan on a constant speed of 40% as it never ever seems to go near that even while running Crysis. That is where my problems started.
Be careful with that PSU mate it's not a strong one... it has a combined 29A on the dual 12v rails, and I personally wouldn't trust it with a high-draw modern rig.
I have a 4870 too and the only problem for me is the noise... it's easily the noisiest thing in my case and really annoys me.
The 12V rails are only 14A and 15A - that's pretty meagre considering it's trying to run an X2! Compared to, say, a Corsair HX520 which has 3x 18A rails, the Thermaltake is bound to be falling over a little.
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