Protest march against Israeli terrorism

RDM said:
Yes because a bunch of dead Israeli's is really going to help the situation isn't it? And who do you suggest does it? Every time an arab nation goes to war with Israel it doesn't turn out so great.
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yes it would they have annoyed every single culture on this planet.
i'll give you one example southern spain, tried to split spain in half etc... in the 15th C
 
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Its all arse, march for Israel, march for Palestine, march for toffee flavored yogurt, they all hate each other and they'll keep poking and prodding till someone launches a big **** off missile, in the mean time everyone's going to get their mates to stand around and look hard. Israel has the US and Palestine has Iran.

Put two dogs that were taught to fight next to each other in close proximity and they won't stop barking until they break free and kill one another.

Bunch of tossers all of them

MB
 
mattheman said:
yes it would they have annoyed every single culture on this planet.
i'll give you one example southern spain, tried to split spain in half etc... in the 15th C
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Do you actually know the history of 15th Century spain? I haven't had a huge amount of it, but it certainly wasn't kind to the jews. Not that I am entirely sure what 15th Century spain has anything to do with the Israel/Palestine conflict as I am pretty sure all those jews are dead.
 
scorza said:
And it's convenient that you seem to forget why Israel is the way it is. Yes the walls and checkpoints make life unbearable for the Palestinians, but perhaps in Hamas and their buddies didn't go around blasting Israelis to high heaven with suicide bombs then perhaps they wouldn't be necessary. The simple fact remains that prior to the latest Intifadah, plenty of Israeli's and Palestinians were co-existing in relative peace. Hamas et al have sown the seeds of hate on that land and are now reaping the crop.

Oh and of course Hamas attacks are going to gain a high media presence - they are a terrorist organisation. A terror attack that fails to incite terror has utterly failed, the western media is an extremely useful tool for terrorists.
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Of course I don't condone Hamas' actions, but when you're so desperate that you have nothing left to live for (quite literally in these people's cases) you do what you think you have to. Can you imagine the desperation you need to go through if you do decide to blow yourself up for something you believe in? I can't even begin to imagine the extreme that these people have to go through and I've seen what they live through, though I haven't met anyone from Hamas as far as I know. All I know is I have strong ties and love for the Arab people and they are always the ones who are accused of being the extremists, yet the Israelis seem to always smell of roses, or are somehow more oppressed which frankly is sickening.
 
About the only thing which has caused more wars than religion is territory, you put two idealistic religiously opposed races who think they have a God given right to the same bit of land together and.... well I think we know what's going to happen, right?

MB
 
Freefaller said:
Can you imagine the desperation you need to go through if you do decide to blow yourself up for something you believe in?
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That would hold a little more water if it wasn't for the fact that a fair number of people not living in such desperation have also managed to decide to blow themselves up. No doubt it makes it easier to recruit suicide bombers, but it isn't the reason for it.
 
@if ®afiq said:
It gives hope to the people of Gaza. It shows our government that we care and this is not acceptable.
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And how do you propose the government of a foreign power exercises its non existant jurisdiction over a foreign sovereign power ?

By meddling once more in middle eastern matters ?
 
Von Smallhausen said:
ie allowing Israel to act with impunity.
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And why shouldn't they..

If we where being attacked by rockets, i would want our government could do all it could to stop them. Some may see it as heavy handed i would see it as necessary.

How many of you would suddenly change your mind if the rockets where being aimed at your town.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
I find the violence in the region deplorable but the British Government will follow the US Government ... ie allowing Israel to act with impunity.
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What can we actually do to stop them? Not to mention we voted for the current resolution to which the US abstained.
 
Last year it was, "Death to the infidel West for meddling in Middle-Eastern affairs."

Now it's "Excuse me, Infidel West. Can you help us please, Israel has decided enough is enough so we'd like you to come and meddle in our affairs some more."

Bloody hypocrites.
 
AcidHell2 said:
And why shouldn't they..

If we where being attacked by rockets, i would want our government could do all it could to stop them. Some may see it as heavy handed i would see it as necessary.

How many of you would suddenly change your mind if the rockets where being aimed at your town.
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Past examples show we didn't and won't.

When the IRA were killing far more people than Hamas the UK government didn't blast the **** out of Ireland did they?

There are quite a few parallels you can draw from the two confilcits. See my earlier post where I stated the British forces could have gone in and cleared up (according to them) quite easily but they didn't.

I think we are one of the few countries that can really stand up and say we have been in the same position, but not retaliated.

So yes they are WAY to heavy handed.
 
Well I'm drawing a close to my contribution to this thread. I just hope Israel gets more than it's knuckles wrapped but I doubt it'll happen and my poor Palestinians will continue to needlessly die :( Let us hope that they can somehow forget the past (the Palestinians will have to dig deep mind) and just get on with repairing the burnt bridges and we can concentrate on building a better relationship between the west and the Middle East excluding Israel who have more than their foot in the door already. I'm fed up of the finger pointing, I will always be pro-arab and as such pro-Palestinians, I shan't roll my eyes or be disdainful of people who maybe don't know as much as what they've been taught about the middle east and certainly with regards to Israel/Palestine however all I ask is that please don't take everything at face value the Israelis REALLY aren't as innocent or oppressed as you think. :)

Right time to get back to more important things... what to have for dinner.
 
Amp34 said:
Past examples show we didn't and won't.

When the IRA were killing far more people than Hamas the UK government didn't blast the **** out of Ireland did they?

There are quite a few parallels you can draw from the two confilcits. See my earlier post where I stated the British forces could have gone in and cleared up (according to them) quite easily but they didn't.

I think we are one of the few countries that can really stand up and say we have been in the same position, but not retaliated.

So yes they are WAY to heavy handed.
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Well a lot would argue with you saying we were heavy handed. Also it is not on the same scale.
 
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