What just Came through my Front Door
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[TW]Fox;13256382 said:Why would somebody who wasn't a Muslim advise people to become one?
Its probably a jew who wants his house and needs a valid reason to just take it
religion is a joke, the quicker people get over it the better. Unfortunately, as the gap widens between the 1st world and the 3rd world they will always live out of reach of the same lifestyle. That leads to resentment and anger at living in that kind of situation and its people, like the Taliban and other groups who pray on that kind of thing and turn it into anger, teach them to blame America for not helping whever they are become more like them etc.
It really gets on my nerves though when people living here are perfectly happy to live here, won't live in a poor part of the world but are openly disgusted with the way we live and who we are, while they do the same thing. THe terrorists who will kill people who were born and grow up here have really no excuse, neither do most of the others, but imagine growing up in Afghan where the only thing you were told your whole life was of family members past left to be killed by American's, and lies of how they refused to help, helped the other side, took money from your country, keep you down, stop you living a happy life, every little bad thing in your life is somehow explained back to being America's fault, you'd hate america too. People pray on people and teach them to hate, in that situation you want to blame someone. Here its just ignorant and stupid to believe they are bad when you can see who we are.
The people that made up religion, it probably worked great at the time, but do you think they could forsee it being so widely accepted, and so many people choosing to fight each other in the name of religion?
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So you can just convert to Islam instantly? No need to actually believe any of it? No need for personal conviction? No need for faith?
How convenient! I guess that explains why it's one of the world's fastest growing religions; you just sign on the dotted line and start calling yourself a Muslim.
On a related note: why do I have to become a Muslim in order to support the Palestinians?
On an equally related note: www.islam4uk.com looks like a legitimate Muslim site.
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You're throwing around the word "fact" like it makes it so.
We need yantorsen!
Has he suddenly become a Muslim? I'm not sure that as a Christian he'd want to support this drivel.
RaohNS - did you put in the (swt) and (pbuh) to that? If not it makes an already poor leaflet worse given that it doesn't explain what the initialisations mean. Frankly I'd have to doubt the ideological soundness of anyone who received a leaflet through the door and suddenly though "I know what's been missing from my life, religion X, why don't I join them".
i havent been following the hamas v israeli conflict as much..
i thought there was a ceasfire in place for years or smt but recently hamas started upping the frequency of firing rockets into israel territory. So israel finally get sick of the rocket attacks and go all out attack mode on all terrorist attacks from gaza. ?
i thought there was a ceasfire in place for years or smt but recently hamas started upping the frequency of firing rockets into israel territory. So israel finally get sick of the rocket attacks and go all out attack mode on all terrorist attacks from gaza. ?
Err I don;t think he was thinking that yant was going to support it.i think his point was Quite the opposite in fact
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Ah that would be quite possible, I just read it as meaning because this was a thread basically about religion that we should expect yantorsens presence to defend it.
Allah is just the Arabic word for God. Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in the same God.
Whatever though, your leaflet is just the usual anti-semitic rubbish. I expect the nazi party were distributing similar rubbish prior to Kristallnacht.
Judging by the content of the website, I'd say that the honorifics were added by the author(s). The owners of that site have some pretty strong views; here's an article which argues that none of the mosques in the UK are legitimate:
All these centres should never be called Masaajid (plural for Masjid) or mosques, but rather it is more appropriate for it to be called Prayer Hall or Community Centre. Muslims should refrain from calling these places mosques or even the House of Allaah, and should not think that by donating money towards them, Allaah will build a house in paradise for them.
Allaah (swt) will only do this for those who build a REAL Masjid, where no MP’s are allowed in, no shirk is committed (no calls for voting or obeying the kufr law of the land), and where the ‘Ulamaa of Haq and da’wah carriers are allowed to speak about the affairs of the Muslim Ummah.
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These halls have become places of fitnah (corruption), calling Muslims to vote, inviting kuffaar MP’s and PM’s as well as lying about Allaah, His Messenger and the Deen of Islaam.
It is even considered to be a form of zandaqah (heresy) to call these places Houses of Allaah or Masjid. The reason why these corrupted mosque committees call these places as such, is in order to fool the Muslim community into donating their money towards them so that they can continue creating fitnah and corruption and justify their treachery by using Islaam to cover up their evil actions.
OK, so it's no surprise to find Muslims slagging each other off, but these guys seem pretty hardcore. They are arguing that Muslims should not obey the law of the land.
I'd say that's cause for concern.
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LOL, not trying to kick off a whole argument but..
there is plenty of evidence. Coming from a science point of view, the conservation of energy, "energy can't be created or destroyed" [im revising chemistry for my a-level mock atm
]If energy can't be created, what started the universe? You'd need something supernatural to start it all off. Or you could say we just haven't come across another scientific breakthrough that can explain how the universe started.
How can a Mosque not be legitimate?
A Mosque is a place of worship for Muslims. To pray and discuss matters of Islam.
How they can say they're not legitimate in the UK is absurd. It's just causing stuff up. People do think Muslims are hardcore and live by medieval times.
Tbh, I as a Muslim would not go to such an extent as that. I love my Religion and do stand by it. For people to say whatever does upset me, but they have an opinion and their own beliefs. Right now, loads of Muslims are losing lives and it hurts me to know their isn't much I can do.
So I just leave it into the hands of Allah, as I believe it's what Allah has written that is happening.
A Mosque is a place of worship for Muslims. To pray and discuss matters of Islam.
How they can say they're not legitimate in the UK is absurd. It's just causing stuff up. People do think Muslims are hardcore and live by medieval times.
Tbh, I as a Muslim would not go to such an extent as that. I love my Religion and do stand by it. For people to say whatever does upset me, but they have an opinion and their own beliefs. Right now, loads of Muslims are losing lives and it hurts me to know their isn't much I can do.
So I just leave it into the hands of Allah, as I believe it's what Allah has written that is happening.
tell that first statement to a Muslim, "Allah" and "God" are two different entities regardless of what the sugar coaters would try and tell you... for an Example why are you not allowed by LAW in Saudi Arabia to practice Christianity... because its not Allah ergo, not the same God.
The difference with the alleged BNP leaflets a year ago (which i didn't receive lol) were that they made national news and had condemnation possibly even people trying to take them to court for inciting racial hatred, there was a leaflet being delivered (actually arrested 2 people that were 2/300m from where i live) but oh no, god forbid charging them the leaflet i think was scanned and put in our local newspaper and its beggars belief how a leaflet that states all none Muslims should be killed is classed as not an incitement to murder!
No i copied the leaflet exactly how it was written, its basically just a piece of paper (smelly one at that)
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If you want to go to the Police (they won't do anything), you are fully entitled to, and have the laws backing:
Race Relations Act 1976
Public Order Act 1986
The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994
I'm getting ******* sick of muslims now. Vocal minority my ass, I've not yet spoken to one that doesn't try to ram Islam down my throat and condemn the west.
Race Relations Act 1976
Public Order Act 1986
The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994
I'm getting ******* sick of muslims now. Vocal minority my ass, I've not yet spoken to one that doesn't try to ram Islam down my throat and condemn the west.
I don't have a problem with religion as a whole, what i do have problems with is when people try to force you to see things their way and typically act as if they're superior for it. If it's their right to believe in a benevolent force then it's my right to feel otherwise.
Considering some of the disturbing things that the US has done over the years to random countries, I'd put the US down as a terrorist. God help any south american country that tries to develop itself without US influence. I wouldn't have believed it until I have seen some documentaries about CIA trained militias to destroy local governments... that is pretty much the most despicable thing a country could do to another.
Its like raping the Prime Directive.
Its like raping the Prime Directive.
According to their website, mosques in the UK are not genuine mosques because they allow false teaching and permit visits from non-Muslims.
No you don't. Go read the legislation you mention. No crime has been committed. This leaflet is a perfect example of free speech.
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(wiki)
- deliberately provoking hatred of a racial group
- distributing racist material to the public
- making inflammatory public speeches
- creating racist websites on the Internet
- inciting inflammatory rumours about an individual or an ethnic group, for the purpose of spreading racial discontent.
I'd disagree with your conclusion.