Scores die in Israeli air strikes

clv101 · 10 Jan 2009 at 12:55

Well said, Evangelion. Protest are an important part of free, democratic society and have been important in the past. It's silly to criticise protest, even if you don't agree with them or they appear pointless at the time. A soceety without protest, either because they were banned or because people couldn't be bothered would be a worse society.

The Gaza Strip death toll is now around 800, that's around 0.5% of the population 266 per week. Scaled up to the UK population, that would be 32,500 people in three weeks.

During the Blitz (7 September 1940 and 10 May 1941, ~32 week) some 20,000 people died in London, a rate of 625 per week. However London's population was around 8 million so scaling down the the Gaza strip population the rate is 117 per week (per 1.5m).

Therefore, like for like, the Gaza Strip death rate has been more than twice the rate London experienced during the Blitz.

Jono8 · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:02

aardvark said:
white phosphorous - its a chemical weapon, plain and simple.

and whats your definition of a chemical weapon. Technically, they all are

Tefal · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:07

clv101 said:
Therefore, like for like, the Gaza Strip death rate has been more than twice the rate London experienced during the Blitz.

Have the Gazza been causing huge numbers of Israeli bombs to land harmlessly in fields, and evacuating large numbers of the population?

AS if not then the comparison isn't really that valid.

KNiVES · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:08

Zip said:
What about Israeli Children?

Wont be long before a Palistinian Rocket hits a school

Yeah but right now it's the Israelis bombing children when they perfectly have the capability not to do so. It's a completely different thing.

clv101 · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:23

Tefal said:
Have the Gazza been causing huge numbers of Israeli bombs to land harmlessly in fields, and evacuating large numbers of the population?

AS if not then the comparison isn't really that valid.

I was more thinking of the social implications of that many people being killed, what it does to a society to have hundreds per week killed. That was my comparison.

Tefal · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:24

clv101 said:
I was more thinking of the social implications of that many people being killed, what it does to a society to have hundreds per week killed. That was my comparison.

so why did you say

Therefore, like for like

clv101 · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:29

Because that's what I meant maybe? I'm sorry I'm my post confused you. It was just a pretty simple case of linearly scaling the numbers so we could compare the death rates.

Tefal · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:32

clv101 said:
Because that's what I meant maybe? I'm sorry I'm my post confused you. It was just a pretty simple case of linearly scaling the numbers so we could compare the death rates.

except of course it's not like for like (very very far from it), as I just pointed out and you started off on a tangent about "social implications".

if it was "like for like" bombing campaigns then the death rate would be in th tens of thousands by now.

Sankari · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:34

clv101 said:
Because that's what I meant maybe? I'm sorry I'm my post confused you. It was just a pretty simple case of linearly scaling the numbers so we could compare the death rates.

I thought that was a very helpful and interesting comparison.

Tombo · 10 Jan 2009 at 13:58

KNiVES said:
Yeah but right now it's the Israelis bombing children when they perfectly have the capability not to do so. It's a completely different thing.

Do they have the capability not to?

Sankari · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:03

Yes, I think they do.

They also have the choice of bombing or not bombing.

magick · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:06

Does anyone think that as long as Judaism and Islam exist there'll never be peace in the ME?

Septh · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:19

As long as theres religion there will be war in my opinion, as none of them can accept someone else has a different view about the world and either want to convert people or kill them if they can't be converted, this is just my opinion tho

Tefal · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:20

Septh said:
As long as theres religion there will be war

We'll only find something else to fight about if it goes.

Septh · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:26

Tefal said:
We'll only find something else to fight about if it goes.

True, its like that south park episode where cartman goes into the future where theres no religion and only science, and they are still fighting, but over what to call science lol
Good 2 parter episode

Amnesia · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:33

there will be arguments and fights aslong as there are differences ...colour/religion/language/opinion

has it been written somewhere that there will never be peace in that particular area ? bible quran torah ?

magick · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:34

The problem is when you fight over religion you more or less have a divine justification to never stop fighting. The same isn't so for other reasons.

Tefal · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:35

magick said:
The problem is when you fight over religion you more or less have a divine justification to never stop fighting. The same isn't so for other reasons.

Who needs divine justification?

how long have people been fighting the same civil wars in Africa now?>

fraps · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:36

clv101 said:
Therefore, like for like, the Gaza Strip death rate has been more than twice the rate London experienced during the Blitz.

Septh · 10 Jan 2009 at 14:36

magick said:
The problem is when you fight over religion you more or less have a divine justification to never stop fighting. The same isn't so for other reasons.

What annoys me the most is when people who don't care about the religion get drafted into it, either fighting for it, or dieing innocently :mad: