Autistic teenager kicked baby in the face

Guzzidom said:
How interesting, my 15 year old is Autistic and my 3 year old isn't, my breath has been utterly taken away by some of the attitudes on here.

Savantism (the "cleverness") in Autism is very rare, though the examples are normally amazing, the ability to draw from memory etc (there's quite a chance Mozart and Einstien were mildly autistic).
Autistics live in a constant state of high anxiety, loud noises terrify them, my son runs off if a road drill goes off or a fire alarm sounds, police sirens made him sob until recently, I doubt strongly the Autistic acted with any malice, possibly the child screamed or shrieked and it was a terrified fight or flight response, I can see why he was taken to a Cafe too, somewhere usually quiet where he could practice normality.
My son has enough going on to realise the social unacceptability of this sort of action but some haven't.
About ten years ago my son shouted, something incomprehensible, really loudly at (or near anyway) a child in asda's and the kiddie, understandably started crying, the mum got the dad, despite my apologies and explanations who asked where I got off bringing "maniacs I couldn't control out in public" and "I'd put him in an effin cage".
I left my shopping there and took my son and wife back to the car, as we were going out in the car he was coming out of the doors and he stood there half in the road staring at us aggressively and nodding his head.
I got out and fractured his skull and eye socket, got a fine, community service and 3 years probation but the judge had a few choice words for his attitude too.
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I would've done exactly the same. Well, probably kicked him about a dozen times in the head as well with the hope that the rust and dust around his brain came loose. Let's hope he learned some compassion through that little episode.
 
Tefal said:
yeah I could fully understand whacking him in the shop it just can;t see it once you';re in your car and away getting out and whacking him then.
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I think the point is that we don't know the cumulative effects of how having a mentally disabled child affects people. The reason I'm not rushing to judge is that the incident that Guzzidom described may well have been the straw that broke the camels back.
 
Some of the comments are pretty bad in this thread and clearly some people don't understand autism. My g/f's cousin is 15 years old and autistic and such a shame to see both himself and mother struggle with it. Now he is getting to grown up and big for his mother & grandmother to look after him. He was home for Xmas and I was trying to help him play the Lion King dvd and it was not working (typical!) he started to get stressed out and more and more worried/annoyed. I have not spent much time with him 1 on 1 but was trying to help, he started whacking himself in his own head really hard :( (I have heard he harms himself quite a lot sometimes but is getting better), I then feel a whack and he is screaming (cue a little bit of blood from my nose), I then have to physically control him from harming himself some more and his mum comes rushing back and calms him down.
She felt really bad for me and I think was slightly embarrassed but of course it didn't bother me, I felt bad for him & her :(
Such a shame and I really feel for anyone who has it!
 
Brian Stuart said:
I think the point is that we don't know the cumulative effects of how having a mentally disabled child affects people. The reason I'm not rushing to judge is that the incident that Guzzidom described may well have been the straw that broke the camels back.
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I once saw a workmate in Hanley with her daughter and said 'Hello'.
She walked straight past me and I turned and shouted 'hello Sue' again but no response.
On the monday I asked her why she had blanked me and she didn't know she had done it.
The reason was that her 19 year old daughter was severely autistic and when people spoke to her it was normally to have a go at bringing her daughter out :eek:
She said that you wouldn't believe how cruel some people can be when all she does it try to give her daughter some sense of normality.
 
dmpoole said:
I once saw a workmate in Hanley with her daughter and said 'Hello'.
She walked straight past me and I turned and shouted 'hello Sue' again but no response.
On the monday I asked her why she had blanked me and she didn't know she had done it.
The reason was that her 19 year old daughter was severely autistic and when people spoke to her it was normally to have a go at bringing her daughter out :eek:
She said that you wouldn't believe how cruel some people can be when all she does it try to give her daughter some sense of normality.
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What a horrible story Dave. It does illustrate my point about camels and straws perfectly. I can only feel so grateful that I am not in the same position as others on this thread and have to cope with the hostility on a daily basis.
 
Tefal said:
I'm quite surprised by the number of people who work with or know/are related to people with autism on here.




:mad:
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Why?, there are nearly 1.6 million people with Autistic spectrum disorders, there are about 350k that require either specialist education or home care and there are about 125-150k of a level that require full or part time institutionalisation.
If 2 or 3 posters on here know of or are related to these people that sounds not far off.
 
Guzzidom said:
Why?, there are nearly 1.6 million people with Autistic spectrum disorders, there are about 350k that require either specialist education or home care and there are about 125-150k of a level that require full or part time institutionalisation.
If 2 or 3 posters on here know of or are related to these people that sounds not far off.
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well that would be why i din;t know there where that many...
 
romperstomper said:
try this Tefal it really looks much better ;)

can't , you're, didn't .
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yeah i type with my hand at a weird angle with my right hand because of my shoulder so i miss the key, can't be ****ed to change it most of the time.

Need a program to rebind them and then switch the keys around.
 
Guzzidom said:
If 2 or 3 posters on here know of or are related to these people that sounds not far off.
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I'd assume the figure would be higher, quite a few people on here work in the health/social sciences fields. My missus asked me to mail the link for this thread, as being a psychologist she's interested in how the general public regard autism and the like..
 
Tefal said:
well that would be why i din;t know there where that many...
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Sadly, it's on the rise too, it's not because of the MMR jab either, it's on the rise in countries that don't use that method by much the same amount.
It's a broad church though and a lot of people with poor social skills and sometimes those with superhuman levels of concentration could be very low level sufferers, I've always thought that if you threw a stick across a conference of physicists you'd bounce off the heads of a good few autistics.
My boy is 100% ambidextrous, a good thing you may think, but in effect it means he's got what appears to be two left hands, can't really catch a ball with either though he can text with both strangely, his short term memory has always been shocking..except when it comes to remembering where I put the chocolate, he can't do up shoelaces..until I told him I'd give him a quid for every pair he could find in the house and tie them, bugger took me for £26 and still wears velcro trainers.
I look at him sometimes and wonder who the mug is.
 
born conartist there :d

See how well he can do slight of hand based card tricks. He could make a fortune off the kids in school :p
 
Tefal said:
born conartist there :d

See how well he can do slight of hand based card tricks. He could make a fortune off the kids in school :p
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He's at the age now where he is doing a lot of stuff with the rational part of his brain to counteract the confused parts, watching the school gates (he's now in a normal comprehensive, but is seconded, ie given assistance), as all the other kids come out he's instantly visible carrying his huge rucksack with all his books for every conceivable lesson in it and his PE and swimming kit, he'll not go to school without it, everyone else uses a locker but he's worked out the most consistent and reliable method of turning up at any given lesson with the correct things is to always have all of it at all times.
Works for him and relieves his stress. He assures me no-one picks on him at school, which I find remarkable.
 
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