New Astra! code name: GCV

[TW]Fox · 15 Jan 2009 at 15:42

I agree.

jongeeone · 15 Jan 2009 at 15:59

Wow, that does look.... amazing.

Did the sarcasm get across?
I won't be rushing to go see one.

mrk · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:05

That interior looks same as the insignia the other guy has bought and is waiting for except without the lights turned on.....without the lights on it looks...plaint and boring judging by the above pics and the quality of the dash seems to "look" cheap?

Mr_White · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:06

Simple end to the thread:

Looks ****, will be ****.

Demon · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:17

[TW]Fox;13294858 said:
How am I supposed to present facts to support an opinion on the level of quality present in an interior? You can't support things like that with fact, it's subjective.

It's like you saying Alfas are ugly and me asking you to provide a fact to support that, it's an utterly nonsensical thing to ask for.

I think interior material and build quality is quite quantifiable, Isn't this why it's called 'quality', i.e. it can be qualified..

Just off the top of my head it would seem the common list of criteria include..
Panel fit, rigidity, noise absorption, noise rejection (rattling), resistance to wear, thickness of materials, quality of mechanism movement, variation in panel fit and finish.. etc, etc..

Most reviews tend to be comparitive, but are still looking at the same generic list of criteria when doing this..

That is all..

Demon · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:19

mrk said:
That interior looks same as the insignia the other guy has bought and is waiting for except without the lights turned on.....without the lights on it looks...plaint and boring judging by the above pics and the quality of the dash seems to "look" cheap?

Err, that would look rather like a prototype, slapped together dashboard not the final thing.. I think all we can comment on is the general 'styling', and I'm not overly keen myself

Jez · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:22

Thread about the next model of enterprise mid size hire car = utter fail. The only redeeming feature of the thread is the flame war which has broken out, which is quite funny

The Astra though, who cares what its like.

Demon · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:27

Jez said:
Thread about the next model of enterprise mid size hire car = utter fail. The only redeeming feature of the thread is the flame war which has broken out, which is quite funny

The Astra though, who cares what its like.

I'd sort of agree, but then if every thread had to be 'quality' it'd be like a ghost-town around here

jongeeone · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:30

By the sounds of things Demon has one on pre-order and is convincing himself that it is going to good.... Which its not.

Prophet · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:38

If Vauxhall launched a class winning car there will always be those OcUK'ers who can't wait to slate it. Yeah, some of them can string together a post that sounds justifiable and sometimes they're right. However, with the bias they display I find it far better to ignore the majority and listen to people who know what they're talking about.

I bet many form their opinions because a) they have a 'better' car and Vauxhall's are beneath them and b) becuase they've been given a base model as a courtesy car, which of course gives them a good impression of the whole range and makes them an expert.

It would be very interesting to see what car's people own when they slate a Vauxhall. I'm guessing quite a few own sheds and just want to make themselves feel better.

Lord-Jaffa · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:45

Orange Peel said:
If Vauxhall launched a class winning car

Insignia!

Orange Peel said:
It would be very interesting to see what car's people own when they slate a Vauxhall. I'm guessing quite a few own sheds and just want to make themselves feel better.

This is very true, although you should add their parents cars to the list!

Prophet · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:48

Lord-Jaffa said:
Insignia!

Yeah, I'm just waiting for the comments to flood in about the Insignia

Lord-Jaffa said:
This is very true, although you should add their parents cars to the list!

Excellent point

Fothsn · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:51

Yep it’s just happened to win the Car of the year 2009 award, clearly VX are heading in the right direction

Gerard · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:52

Doesn't look that different from the current astra shape, new lights that look like they've been yoinked off a new focus and not much else from what i can see. :confused:

Jez · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:56

Orange Peel said:
Yeah, I'm just waiting for the comments to flood in about the Insignia

Pile of cheap rubbish, but with great technology and very impressive features. Should sell well on the back of the gadgets i would have thought.

Prophet · 15 Jan 2009 at 16:59

Jez said:
Pile of cheap rubbish, but with great technology and very impressive features. Should sell well on the back of the gadgets i would have thought.

We have our first winnarrr.

Congrats

Jez · 15 Jan 2009 at 17:03

Orange Peel said:
We have our first winnarrr.

Congrats

Compared with its competition, its fine. I'd probably go as far as to say that i would have a signum over its current rivals. Its better than the Mk4 Mondeo for example both in terms of build and gadgets.

BUT, why bother? Unless your employer has stipulations as to the age of a car you are allowed to run privately on company business, there is no reason to ever have a car like this.

Jez · 15 Jan 2009 at 17:12

Orange Peel said:
I'm guessing quite a few own sheds and just want to make themselves feel better.

I really do not think that this is the case.

Lord-Jaffa · 15 Jan 2009 at 17:24

Jez said:
Compared with its competition, its fine. I'd probably go as far as to say that i would have a signum over its current rivals. Its better than the Mk4 Mondeo for example both in terms of build and gadgets.

BUT, why bother? Unless your employer has stipulations as to the age of a car you are allowed to run privately on company business, there is no reason to ever have a car like this.

I'd wager more people would have the Insignia over what you're driving. Hence Orange Peels point.

Besides you just said its the best in its "class", so why wouldnt people buy it over its rivals? lol makes no sense at all.

fonzee · 15 Jan 2009 at 17:29

jongeeone said:
By the sounds of things Demon has one on pre-order and is convincing himself that it is going to good.... Which its not.

not really.

hes just challenging why the badge is constantly being put down around here, when clearly the cars are half decent. look at sales figures too, the MK5 astra is the best selling car in europe over the past 2 years, bit strange if these cars are so utterly awful?